迈威尔科技 (MRVL.US) 2027财年第二季度业绩电话会
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Marvell Technology reported record revenue, highlighting growth in data center and custom ASIC markets, especially with Google. The company projects significant revenue increases, emphasizing AI infrastructure, optical DSPs, and switching technologies. Financial health is maintained, with expectations of sustained or improved gross margins and a focus on investor updates.
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The earnings call for Marvell Technology's second quarter of fiscal year earnings began with a reminder of risks and forward-looking statements, followed by an overview of non-GAAP financial measures. The call was set to include a Q&A session after formal presentations by the company's leadership team.
A discussion on key management changes including the CFO and investor relations leadership transitions, highlighting the contributions of outgoing leaders and introducing new appointments. The dialogue also previews the company's results and future outlook for the second quarter.
Marvell reports record fiscal second quarter revenue of $2.739 billion, exceeding expectations with 13% sequential and 37% year-over-year growth. The company attributes this success to its data center business, particularly in interconnect, switching, and custom connectivity, which are seeing strong demand due to AI applications. Marvell anticipates fiscal 2028 revenue of approximately $18 billion, a significant increase from previous estimates, driven by accelerating growth across key data center businesses and expanding AI infrastructure needs.
Marvell anticipates a significant increase in revenue from its data center and custom silicon businesses, driven by advancements in optical interconnects, AI infrastructure, and custom silicon solutions for hyperscalers. The company is poised for growth in both scale-up and scale-out networking, with a focus on optimizing performance and reliability in AI data centers. Marvell's leadership in connectivity, compute, and memory technologies positions it as a key enabler in the evolving landscape of AI infrastructure.
The CFO outlines Marvell's growth potential, emphasizing AI infrastructure, disciplined capital allocation, and value creation. Highlights include strong Q2 revenue growth, particularly in the Data Center market, and improved operating margins. The summary notes the company's focus on cash flow, balance sheet strength, and stock repurchase activities.
The CFO discusses Q3 fiscal 2027 financial projections, highlighting revenue growth, margin targets, and strategic investments. Anticipates significant revenue acceleration, operating leverage, and robust cash flow management. Plans to invest in capacity and repurchase shares while aiming for strong returns and expanding margins.
The dialogue highlights Marvell's expanding relationship with Google, emphasizing the company's diverse product offerings including inference accelerators and XP attached products. The discussion underscores the significant opportunities for Marvell, driven by a broad set of products and the potential for game-changing performance improvements over the next 6 to 6.5 years.
The dialogue discusses the anticipated significant increase in revenue from custom ASICs under a commercial agreement, projecting revenues to more than double in the upcoming fiscal year and reach $10 billion plus by fiscal 29, with detailed financial breakdowns to be revealed at an upcoming investor day.
The dialogue covers updates on an upcoming large XP program, highlighting its modest current projections but significant potential growth. The program, tied to custom designs for hyperscalers, shows promising progress in design execution and market opportunity assessment. The speaker expresses confidence in the program's prospects, noting its alignment with one of the company's largest revenue opportunities. Architectural insights into evolving XP technologies and their broad applications are also discussed, underscoring the program's strategic importance and future scalability.
The dialogue discusses significant progress in CXL technology, transitioning from a server-centric memory architecture to a versatile solution for memory expansion and inferencing, with notable design wins and customer interest. It highlights the acceleration of scale up optics, particularly the celestial AI CPO photonic fabric solution, which is now a key driver in the $1.5 billion target for the next year. The conversation underscores Marvel's unique position in providing end-to-end solutions, integrating optical technologies with switches and supporting diverse customer architectures, positioning the company for substantial growth in the coming years.
Progress in copper scale up leverages proven switching solutions, expanding customer base, and revenue. Success translates to scale out, impacting scale up as well. Aggressive investment in UAL switching shows promise. Customers trust the delivery of complex switching products, driving confidence in future optics roadmap, crucial for long-term wins in end-to-end solutions.
Discusses Marvell's strategic positioning in the AI market, emphasizing customization capabilities and partnerships, with a focus on future growth in FY 29 and beyond, highlighting the company's role in AI inference and accelerator technologies.
The dialogue discusses an update on the company's growth rates for the current and next fiscal year, highlighting the significant impact of the connectivity segment, particularly scale-up optics, transceiver market, and switching, which are outperforming prior expectations. Custom products also contribute to the upward revision, showcasing broad-based strength across product lines, with connectivity being the largest driver of the increased revenue projections.
The dialogue focused on the acceleration in the data center's custom segment, driving sequential growth, with a discussion on margin implications and future financial projections for the company.
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Q:What are the highlights of Marvell's second fiscal quarter 27 earnings call?
A:The highlights of Marvell's second fiscal quarter 27 earnings call include the management transitions, with Willem Mank stepping down as CFO and Dan Dern being welcomed as the new CFO. Additionally, Ashish Saran's retirement from the company in April 2027 was announced.
Q:What are the financial results and expectations for the second quarter of fiscal 27?
A:For the second quarter of fiscal 27, Marvell reported record revenue of $2.739 billion, with a 13% sequential and 37% year-over-year growth. Non-GAAP earnings per share were 94 cents, exceeding the midpoint of guidance. Marvell increased its sequential revenue growth expectation for the third and fourth quarters to double-digit percentage growth and expects revenue to grow in the second half of the fiscal year. The revenue outlook for the third quarter is a total company revenue of $3.15 billion at the midpoint, an increase from the prior outlook of approximately $1.5 billion just one quarter ago.
Q:How is the data center business contributing to Marvell's growth?
A:The data center business is a major contributor to Marvell's growth, with revenue growth of approximately script this fiscal year. This growth is driven by factors such as the demand for AI and the continued growth across all of Marvell's key data center businesses. Marvell now expects fiscal 2028 revenue to be approximately $18 billion, an increase of $1.5 billion from the outlook provided just one quarter ago. The growth rate is also accelerating, with an expected fiscal 2028 revenue growth of approximately 50% year-over-year, compared with 45% in the prior outlook.
Q:What are the expected growth patterns for Marvell's business in fiscal 2028?
A:Marvell expects aggregate demand to accelerate in fiscal 2028, leading to a significant increase in revenue to more than percent year in 2028. This growth is driven by strong revenue growth across all key data center businesses, including custom more than doubling. Marvell now projects a fiscal 2028 revenue growth of approximately 50% year-over-year, compared with the prior outlook of approximately 45%.
Q:What is the impact of AI demand on Marvell's various data center businesses?
A:AI demand is having a broad-based positive impact across Marvell's various data center businesses, including interconnect, switching, and custom connectivity. This demand is driven by the rising need for AI performance and is a critical enabler for scale-out applications. Marvell's market leading franchises in optical DPs and broadband analog components are experiencing significant demand, with robust demand for 800 gig and a rapidly ramping 1.66 T business. The growth is anticipated to continue as hyperscalers build larger AI clusters that span multiple data centers.
Q:How is Marvell's strategy for scale-up networking and AI infrastructure contributing to the company's growth?
A:Marvell's strategy for scale-up networking and AI infrastructure is contributing to the company's growth by creating a massive new TAM (total addressable market). Initially, customers are deploying copper interconnect for scale-up networking, but as cluster sizes grow, the limitations of copper are driving the demand for optics and Ethernet switches. Marvell is investing in next-generation scale-up optical interconnect and switching technologies to meet this demand. The adoption of scale-up networking and AI infrastructure is expected to create a significant growth opportunity for Marvell, supported by a strong demand for its Tia and drivers.
Q:What are the characteristics of Marvell's scale-up switches and how do they contribute to the company's competitive advantage?
A:Marvell's scale-up switches, developed using internally created Ual and Es UN technology and partnered with Nvidia, are uniquely positioned to score all Ly purpose-built scale-up protocols. They leverage decades of experience in developing large critical-sized switch silicon, combined with in-house high-performance C technology. The close coupling of optics and switching provides another important differentiator, allowing Marvell to deliver highly optimized solutions that offer customers exceptional performance, reliability, and time-to-market acceleration. Marvell is in deep discussions with Tier Ii customers for multiple engagements across its scale-up switch portfolio, each representing a multi-billion dollar lifetime revenue opportunity.
Q:What is the projected growth for the custom business within the data center end market and what factors are driving this growth?
A:The custom business within the data center end market is expected to more than double year over year in fiscal Q4 and significantly accelerate in fiscal Q5. This growth is anticipated to be driven by both xpu and xpu attached products, with ongoing robust design activity with hyperscalers. A recent example of this momentum includes an expanded commercial agreement and a warrant with a key hyperscaler, reflecting the scale and long-term potential of the relationship. The agreement also covers a broad range of custom silicon programs, including those attached to the TPU ecosystem like AI accelerators and storage control. These products, built on Marvell IP, are designed to improve performance and efficiency of AI data centers. Revenue from these programs is already reflected in the overall customer revenue target provided by Marvell. Looking ahead, the custom business is expected to deliver strong revenue growth due to ongoing robust design activity with hyperscalers.
Q:What is the expected trajectory for revenue in the third and fourth fiscal quarters?
A:For the third fiscal quarter, revenue is expected to decline in the low to mid-teens percentage range both sequentially and year over year. However, a solid sequential recovery is expected in the fourth quarter. The near-term momentum across the business remains strong, as evidenced by significant increases to the outlook compared to the expectations provided just one quarter ago. The revenue outlook for fiscal Q4 has been increased by approximately $500 million for fiscal Q4 and by approximately $1.5 billion for fiscal 2029 compared to the previous outlook. The数据中心业务 growth is continuing to accelerate and broaden, with the forecast for data center revenue growth in fiscal Q4 increased from an expectation of 40% to approximately 60%, and there is potential for further acceleration in fiscal 2029.
Q:What are the highlights of Marvell's recent financial results and future guidance?
A:For the second quarter of fiscal 2027, revenue was down 13% sequentially but up 37% year over year, with data center being the largest end market contributing 79% of total revenue and growing 46% year over year. GAAP and non-GAAP gross margins were 53.1% and 58.9%, respectively. The non-GAAP operating margin expanded 180 basis points year over year and 160 basis points sequentially. GAAP and non-GAAP earnings per diluted share were 33 cents and 94 cents, respectively. Marvell's balance sheet and cash flow from operations remained strong, with inventory at the end of the second quarter being just slightly higher than the prior quarter. Marvell's capital program continued with the purchase of 200 million of its common stock. Marvell's guidance for the third quarter of fiscal 2027 forecasts revenue of 3.15 billion plus or -5%, with GAAP gross margin between 52.9% and 53.9%, and non GAAP gross margin between 57.5% and 58.5%. The sequential acceleration of the custom business is the key driver for the revenue forecast in the third quarter.
Q:What is the projected non-GAAP tax rate for fiscal 2027 and fiscal 2028?
A:The projected non-GAAP tax rate for fiscal 2027 is 11%, and it is expected to rise to approximately 13% in fiscal 2028.
Q:What is the projected range for GAAP and non-GAAP earnings per diluted share?
A:The projected range for GAAP earnings per diluted share is 48 cents to 58 cents, while the projected non-GAAP earnings per diluted share range is $1.50 to $1.15.
Q:What is the projected capacity for prepayments to suppliers and how will they be funded?
A:Marvell is projected to make approximately $1 billion of capacity prepayments to suppliers in fiscal 2027, consistent with the guidance provided last quarter. These prepayments will be applied against future material purchases and funded through the company's strong balance sheet and robust operating cash flow.
Q:What are the company's views on its technology portfolio and growth potential?
A:The company views the technology portfolio as exceptionally strong, customer relationships as deep, and long-term growth potential as substantial. The company's focus is on executing with discipline to scale the company and ensure that growth translates into expanding margins, strong cash flow, and compelling returns for stockholders.
Q:How does the Google commercial agreement impact revenue projections for the upcoming years?
A:The Google commercial agreement impacts revenue projections by driving revenue growth. The agreement includes a significant commitment, and revenue from this agreement is expected to contribute more significantly in the upcoming fiscal year and beyond. For the next year, the company expects custom revenue to more than double, although an exact figure has not been provided. In the following fiscal year (fiscal 29), the impact of the Google commercial agreement and related programs is anticipated to be substantial, contributing to the company's revenue growth.
Q:What are the expectations for revenue growth in fiscal 29 and beyond?
A:The company expects a significant revenue opportunity with their custom programs, which will be detailed in their upcoming investor day presentation. The guidance includes a thorough review of revenue expectations through fiscal 29 and extending into the end of the decade.
Q:Can you provide an update on the large XP program set to start next year?
A:The company is very encouraged by the progress on the new double plus program, which is part of the large XP program. They have been making quarterly progress on design execution and are in a conservative and practical judgment phase. The most meaningful part of the next year's increase is expected to come from scale-up optics and other areas, with the double plus being a substantial part. The company has secured additional design wins in the area and is excited about the project's prospects.
Q:How has the architectural view on CXL evolved and how is it being received by hyperscalers?
A:The company's architectural view on CXL has evolved positively, with the technology being deployed at multiple hyperscalers with varying architectures. The investment made in CXL is proving ideal for memory expansion and inferencing, leading to modifications and adjustments in customer plans to utilize more of this technology. The company has also secured additional design wins in this area and looks forward to outlining them at the investor day presentation.
Q:What is the updated view on the scale up optics opportunity?
A:The scale up optics opportunity is turning out to be one of the most exciting areas for the company. The previously outlined investment in this area is now showing a significant upward bias, with a comprehensive memory expansion section expected in the investor day presentation. The company anticipates that scale up optics will be a substantial contributor to the revenue growth, with a significant portion of the forecasted increase for next year attributed to this area. The company's approach to scale up optics is not limited to a single solution but includes various design wins and participation through partners, including their own light engine solution. The company is also working on their switching roadmap to couple optical solutions with their switches, allowing for seamless integration with customers' xpu/GPU solutions.
Q:What are the key factors that position Marvell uniquely in the market?
A:Marvell is uniquely positioned due to its end-to-end connectivity solutions, diverse technology portfolio including packaging modulator technologies and silicon photonics, and a decade of experience in these areas, making it a massive opportunity for the company.
Q:What is the significance of having a clear roadmap for executing on the full end-to-end solution?
A:Having a clear roadmap for executing on the full end-to-end solution is significant as it enables Marvell to demonstrate credibility and win long-term customer trust. The roadmap is essential for convincing customers that Marvell can deliver on both copper and optical solutions, fulfilling their need for a comprehensive and trustworthy end-to-end portfolio.
Q:How should investors understand the impact of the Boot deal on Marvell's future financials?
A:Investors should understand that most of the financial impact from the Boot deal is already reflected in the next year's projections, with the biggest impact expected beyond that. Marvell has shown ranges of outcomes but suggests investors should assume the numbers will be significantly larger than what has been customary. The financial model for custom products indicates a significant increase in financial potential, with the opportunity to grow much larger than previously modeled.
Q:What does the strategic partnership with a major player in the AI market signify for Marvell?
A:The strategic partnership with a major player in the AI market signifies significant validation of Marvell's position in the market. The partnership demonstrates Marvell's honor and recognition as a key participant in the ecosystem, and the company looks forward to revealing more details at its investor day.
Q:What are the current trends in the market related to AI inference accelerators?
A:The current trends in the market related to AI inference accelerators include companies looking at ways to maximize performance and cost-efficiency relative to the tokens generated, as the shift from training to inference is happening rapidly and companies are now monetizing these capabilities.
Q:How is Marvell contributing to the market trends in AI inference accelerators?
A:Marvell is contributing to the market trends in AI inference accelerators by providing solutions across various fronts, including networking, storage, and memory in compute, which are integral to the infrastructure supporting these accelerators.
Q:What growth rates are anticipated for this year and the next fiscal year in the connectivity segment?
A:The anticipated growth rates for this year and the next fiscal year in the connectivity segment are broadly based with a raised expectation to $500 million for this year and $1 billion for the next year.
Q:What specific areas within connectivity are driving the growth?
A:Specific areas within connectivity driving the growth include scale up optics, transceiver market for scale out, and optical Dsp units going into data centers, in addition to switching which is biasing higher this year and next.
Q:Is there a particular segment within the data center that is experiencing the fastest growth and why is it impacting margins?
A:The fastest growing segment within the data center is the custom segment, which is impacting margins. Custom is ramping meaningfully in the second half and while the business is performing strongly across almost all product lines, the change in mix towards custom is causing a step up in gross margins in Q4.
Q:How are the company's gross margins expected to perform in the short term and what is the preliminary view for the next fiscal year?
A:Gross margins in the current quarter (Q4) are expected to be in the same target range as Q3, with a broad-based performance across the company. For the next fiscal year (FY 28), it is anticipated that gross margins will be in a similar range to how they are exiting this year, with all parts of the business seeing an increase. The preliminary view is that gross margins next year will be in a similar range to the back half of this year.

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