Axsome Therapeutics, Inc. (AXSM.US) 2025年第四季度业绩电话会
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Axon Therapeutics reported significant revenue growth, driven by successful commercial products, and is advancing its CNS pipeline with FDA filings for Alzheimer's therapy, ongoing Phase III trials, and acquisitions. The company is expanding its sales force, optimizing advertising, and negotiating payer coverage to support new product launches, anticipating continued operating leverage and growth in key therapeutic areas.
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Axon Therapeutics announced significant revenue growth, with Ava sales exceeding half a billion dollars in its third full year. The company's total revenue increased by 65% year-over-year in Q4 and 66% for the full year. Highlighting a robust commercial platform, Axon is advancing a broad CNS pipeline with five novel product candidates, aiming to support current product momentum and future launches.
The update highlights the company's progress in various clinical trials, including the Priority Review designation for Alzheimer's disease agitation, Phase III trial initiation for smoking cessation, and advancements in narcolepsy, ADHD, and MDD. Acquisition of Azd 7325 for epilepsy treatment is also mentioned. Financial results for the quarter were reviewed by Nick.
The company's fourth quarter and full year revenues showed significant growth, attributed to the successful launch of new products and consistent performance of established ones. Revenue from Avadi, CoI, and Z Bravo surpassed expectations, reflecting the company's robust commercial portfolio and disciplined business execution. Anticipated increases in discounts for key products are noted, with expectations for continued operational leverage and top-line momentum.
The dialogue details financial performance for 2025, highlighting a decrease in R&D expenses due to completed clinical trials, offset by higher SG&A costs driven by commercialization activities. It concludes with a balance sheet update, showing cash and cash equivalents, and an outlook towards operational cash flow positivity.
The dialogue highlights the successful performance of CNS medicines, particularly Alvaldi, with significant year-over-year and sequential growth in prescriptions. It discusses the expansion of the Abedi sales force to 600 representatives and the anticipation of potential launches in Alzheimer's disease agitation, emphasizing the company's innovative commercialization model and growing portfolio.
Zimbra Vo shows promise in acute migraine treatment with high patient prescription rates and expanded payer coverage. COI delivers robust growth in wake-promoting agent market, highlighting Axon's effective commercial strategy. Focus remains on scaling growth and expanding adoption of medicines across commercial organization.
The dialogue discusses the potential implications of the FDA's new single trial policy on ongoing clinical studies, particularly in binge eating, shift work disorder, and ADHD. It highlights that while some conditions may benefit from this policy, others, like ADHD, require separate studies for different patient demographics due to the disorder's varied impact. The speakers emphasize the importance of aligning clinical plans with FDA guidelines and the specificity of each indication.
The discussion centered around Axs Eds, a product with prior research in generalized anxiety disorder, now being considered for epilepsy treatment. Preclinical studies in FSC models show promise, prompting efforts to prepare for Phase II trials. Specific epilepsy types for initial targeting will be detailed later this year.
Discussion on extending existing coverage to new drug indications, focusing on Medicare Part D plans, and strategies for achieving full market access.
The dialogue explores the anticipated launch strategy and sales volume for a new Alzheimer's agitation treatment, comparing it to previous launches. It highlights the expected favorability of Medicare Part D channel scripts and the limited market analogs for predicting uptake. Future program details are promised, emphasizing the need for further information to assess market trends accurately.
The dialogue discusses the factors contributing to the growth in the treatment of OSA and narcolepsy, including new patient starts, active writers, and prescriptions. It highlights the impact of a national TV campaign and the expansion into primary care, noting the fastest growth in primary care new patient starts and writers. The conversation also touches on the benefits from improved access, persistence, and share gain, as well as the differences in non-prescriber behavior between the two segments.
The dialogue focuses on securing broad market access for neurological products, aiming for high covered lives percentages. It also touches on potential broader applications of assets, such as Axs Eds, beyond epilepsy, considering indications like generalized anxiety disorder, while emphasizing initial focus on primary indications.
Discussion revolves around the rationale for doubling the sales force from 300 to 600 reps to capitalize on market momentum in primary care, psychiatry, and neurology. It highlights the expected operating leverage in 2025 and 2026 despite the expansion, emphasizing strategic hiring and DTC efforts for increased HCP engagement and revenue growth.
A contract with the third large Group Purchasing Organization (GPO) was secured, aiming to enhance payer and PBM coverage, focusing on increasing 'Bravo' coverage for the year. The Gross to Net (GTN) ratio for Q4 was in the upper 70s, anticipated to remain high during the launch phase, with expectations of further improvement as more contracts are established.
A discussion on preparing for the launch of an Alzheimer's therapy post-April, with readiness expected within a quarter. The conversation also covers potential metrics for tracking the launch's success, including separating revenues by indication and utilizing data sources like IQVIA or Symphony, pending final plans.
Discusses differentiation of new narcolepsy therapy against existing treatments, focusing on cataplexy control and safety. Highlights ongoing dose exploration for epilepsy treatment, aiming for optimal risk-benefit profiles. Emphasizes the importance of PKPD modeling and receptor specificity in tailoring therapeutic windows.
The dialogue covers the expected safety label for a new Alzheimer's treatment, highlighting rapid onset, durable response, low side effects, and potential market differentiation, particularly among elderly patients.
The dialogue covers eligibility for priority review of Axs 12 NDA, deployment of sales force in community and long-term care settings, and analysis of Bristol's be fee approval for ADP indication. Anticipates standard review, favorable GTN in Medicare Part D, and distinct markets for Alzheimer's psychosis and agitation symptoms.
Discusses differences between gross and net dynamics for Ada compared to MDD, and explores expected penetration levels of ovality in the PC market segment versus the neuropsych segment.
Speakers discuss the expected market penetration of treatments for Major Depressive Disorder (MDD) between primary care and psychiatry, highlighting primary care's dominant volume as initial treaters and psychiatrists' higher patient volumes. The dialogue explores current penetration rates and future growth potential, particularly within primary care as sales teams expand.
Discusses Axs Xi's market potential in narcolepsy treatment, considering the advent of orexin-based products. Highlights Axs Xi's strong data on cataplexy and daytime dosing, emphasizing its appeal and the likelihood of continued polypharmacy in the narcolepsy market despite new mechanisms of action.
Axs Ed targets norepinephrine pathways lost in narcolepsy, effectively addressing cataplexy, daytime sleepiness, and cognition. Its mechanism also benefits depression, common in narcolepsy patients, offering a favorable safety profile.
Axo's leadership emphasizes their dedication to advancing neuroscience medicine, highlighting disciplined investment and performance strategies. They anticipate significant value generation in the coming decade, concluding the call with gratitude for participants and looking forward to future updates.
要点回答
Q:What is the potential peak sales value of the company's innovative medicines?
A:The current commercialized products have the potential to achieve multibillion dollars in annual peak sales.
Q:What are the key milestones for the new product candidate in Alzheimer's disease agitation?
A:The key milestones include the acceptance of the S and D filing and the receipt of Priority Review designation with a PDU action date of April 30. If approved, ovality could address a prevalent and debilitating condition for which only one product is currently approved.
Q:What is the status of the planned Phase III trial for the new product candidate and what other indications is it being advanced for?
A:The planned Phase III trial of a new product candidate is advancing, with the Phase I trial for smoking cessation set to begin in the second quarter, followed by a trial for narcolepsy. The new indications include ADHD, fibrous disorder, MDD with symptoms of excessive daytime sleepiness, and shift work disorder.
Q:What was the outcome of the recent Type B meeting with the FDA regarding a new product candidate?
A:The outcome of the Type B meeting was reaching an agreement on the plan for Phase II studies in pediatric patients. The company plans to conduct parallel Phase II trials for children and adolescents and has initiated startup activities for a Phase II trial of the new product candidate in MDD patients with symptoms of excessive daytime sleepiness and binge eating disorder.
Q:How did the company's Axs 14 product candidate progress in its clinical trials?
A:Axs 14 has initiated a forward study of Phase II double-blind placebo-controlled randomized withdrawal trial in patients with fibromyalgia. A 17, the new designation for a compound, is being evaluated for the treatment of epilepsy and has demonstrated a favorable safety profile in over 700 patients. Phase Ii trial enabling activities are underway.
Q:What does the company's recent financial report indicate about its performance?
A:The recent financial report indicates strong performance with total product revenue of $155.1 million for the fourth quarter and $579.1 million for the year, robust Avadi growth, and solid contributions from other products like C.O.I and Z Bravo.
Q:What were the general and administrative expenses for the fourth quarter and full year of 2025?
A:General and administrative expenses were $169.3 million for the fourth quarter and $570.6 million for the full year of 2025.
Q:What is the company's current cash position?
A:The company ended the year with $323 million in cash and cash equivalents.
Q:How is the company planning to deliver upon the opportunities for its portfolio of CNS medicines?
A:The company plans to deliver upon the opportunities for its portfolio of CNS medicines, starting with alvaldi, through planned investments for cycling and the power of its innovative digital-centric commercialization model.
Q:What is the formulary access and commercial coverage for Axiom's products?
A:Formulary access for Axiom's products remained strong, with commercial coverage increasing from script to script and bringing total coverage to 86% of all lives across channels.
Q:What is the company's strategy for scaling growth across its commercial organization?
A:The company's strategy for scaling growth across its commercial organization includes expanding adoption of its important CNS medicines.
Q:What implications does the new FDA publication have for the company's trials?
A:The new FDA publication on the one-trial policy has implications for the company's trials, and the team is assessing it. The company vets its clinical plans with the FDA and will continue to do so, assessing if changes are needed.
Q:What are the characteristics of the pediatric patient subsegment being studied in the ADHD studies?
A:The pediatric patient subsegment being studied in the ADHD studies are individuals less than 12 years of age, which is the adolescent population.
Q:What is the development plan for Axs Eds, and what data is available from previous studies?
A:The development plan for Axs Eds involves moving into epilepsy, drawing on safety data from past studies in generalized anxiety disorder. Preclinical studies in FSC models have shown predictive success related to epilepsy, and the company is working towards phase II readiness while closely assessing various epilepsies. Further details on the specific epilepsy indication to target first will be provided over the balance of the year.
Q:How will the addition of the Ada label in April potentially affect Medicare coverage?
A:The addition of the Ada label in April is expected to generally mirror existing Medicare coverage for the new indication. However, the company has been working closely with Medicare Part D plans to ensure coverage and utilization management to support the uptake of the product.
Q:What is the anticipated launch strategy for Axs Eds in the first year after approval, particularly for Alzheimer's agitation?
A:The company anticipates a stronger launch in the first year for Axs Eds in Alzheimer's agitation in terms of prescription volume and sales compared to the current market. They plan to share additional details about their program efforts later in the year. They expect 70% plus scripts for Ada to be written in the Medicare Part D channel, which has a more favorable gross-to-net (GTA) profile due to no copay card utilization.
Q:What factors contributed to the company's growth in both the OSA and narcolepsy markets?
A:The company's growth in the OSA and narcolepsy markets was driven by positive growth in new patient starts, total active writers, and total prescriptions. The company's strategy over the past couple of years has been to increase depth across existing co-prescribing practices. Growth was observed across various segments, including PCP, pulmonologists, sleep specialists, and neurologists.
Q:What impact has the DTC campaign had on the company's scripts, and what are the plans for future investment?
A:The national TV campaign launched late in the year around September and October has had a positive impact, resulting in inflection in new patient starts. The company has optimized their spend based on the analysis of the impact by media channel for 2020. Growth was observed across all segments, with primary care being the fastest-growing segment in terms of new patient starts and new writers. The company expects this trend to continue as they expand their efforts in the primary care setting.
Q:What is the company's expectation for ultimate reimbursement and market access at steady state for Axs Eds?
A:The company expects the ultimate reimbursement and market access at steady state for Axs Eds to be around 82% coverage of lives, similar to the COI percentage covered lives, for both MDD and chronic agitation once the product is approved. However, they also anticipate that it could go meaningfully higher and are looking to define the ultimate optimal range for reimbursement and market access.
Q:What is the company's strategy for increasing coverage across channels?
A:The company's goal is to try to secure access for as many patients as possible across various channels and they expect to continue working to ensure access for both the mFDA and FDA vacation.
Q:How does the company plan to approach the broader development of their asset beyond epilepsy?
A:The company will focus on the initial indication of epilepsy and look at other potential indications but wants to stay focused on this area based on promising preclinical work.
Q:What considerations are made in expanding the sales force, and what impact is expected by 2026?
A:The company is expanding their sales force to increase research frequency and engage with a larger group of healthcare professionals (HCPs) across specialties, which includes primary care, psychiatry, and neurology. This expansion is expected to enable capitalizing on the momentum created in the primary care segment and will allow engagement with an expanded target universe. The company anticipates operating leverage into 2026 despite the hiring of additional reps.
Q:How is the contract with the third large GPO expected to affect coverage and what are the team's plans regarding payers and PBMs?
A:The contract with the third large GPO is seen as a precursor to negotiating with payers and PBMs to secure coverage. The team is engaged with national payers and PBMs, and there is optimism about increasing coverage. This is a primary focus for the year, and the team will share updates as the year progresses.
Q:What are the company's expectations for the Gross to Net (GTN) ratio and how will new contracts affect it?
A:The company expects the GTN to remain elevated during the launch phase and to be north of the current GPO coverage but less than the GPS that is prevalent in the space.
Q:What are the company's plans for the potential Alzheimer's therapy launch after April, and how will they monitor the specific launch?
A:The company plans to be ready for a potential Alzheimer's therapy launch within a quarter on Ada, and the team is preparing for launch readiness. They are optimistic about the potential impact if approved. The company will share details about the launch progress using typical IQVIA or Symphony data, although they haven't finalized their plans.
Q:How does the company plan to differentiate ASX Xi for narcolepsy, especially regarding cataplexy control and physician adoption?
A:ASX Xi is seen as a compelling treatment option for narcolepsy patients, particularly for cataplexy relief, based on a new mechanism of action. There is a high degree of interest in using it for narcolepsy patients according to market research. The company recognizes the variability in patient response and the need for trial and error in treatment.
Q:How does the company see the therapeutic window for epilepsy and the effects of sedation with their asset?
A:The company acknowledges that their asset may be less sedative than benzodiazepines, as shown in an earlier study. However, the therapeutic window is acceptable given the change in indication, and there is a consideration to possibly adjust the dose to optimize sedation levels.
Q:What is the goal of exploring different doses for the drug and how does it relate to therapeutic indications?
A:The goal of exploring different doses for the drug is to find the best risk-benefit profile for the therapeutic indications by ensuring the selected dose can hit certain subsets of receptors related to specific therapeutic goals.
Q:What are the anticipated next steps for the drug in clinical trials for epilepsy?
A:The next step for the drug in clinical trials for epilepsy is to gather information from the initial trial in patients with epilepsy and to continue research to understand the drug's efficacy and safety profile in this therapeutic area.
Q:How does the company anticipate the safety profile of the drug will be reflected in the label and what are the expected advantages over competitors?
A:The company anticipates that the safety profile of the drug will be described in the label based on the patient population studied. They expect that the drug's advantages over competitors will include rapid onset of action, durability of response, low side effects, and its differentiation from antipsychotic options, especially in the context of comorbidity with Alzheimer's agitation.
Q:Is Axi 12 likely to receive priority review, and what is the expectation for market share in the Medicare Part D channel?
A:Axi 12 is anticipated to be a standard review, not a priority review. The company expects that 70% or more of prescriptions for Axi 12 would be in the Medicare Part D channel, which is more favorable than the commercial channel, potentially leading to a more favorable GTC (Gross to Channel) ratio.
Q:How does the company plan to deploy its sales force for Axi 12 and what is their strategy for the long-term care setting if the drug is approved for ADP?
A:The company plans to deploy its sales force with an understanding that about 60% of prescriptions for Alzheimer's disease are in community-based settings and 40% in long-term care facilities. If Axi 12 is approved for ADP, the company views Alzheimer's dementia and Alzheimer's psychosis as distinct indications and expects a clear differentiation in the market with significant unmet need for managing agitation symptoms.
Q:How is the market penetration in the primary care segment expected to evolve and what is the current distribution of the company's writer base?
A:Primary care is the dominant specialty in overall volume but psychiatrists have the greatest volume per patient. While 1/3 of the company's writer base is in primary care and 2/3 in psychiatry, the future penetration in the neuropsych segment versus the primary care segment is not yet clear, but the company is seeing growth in primary care with its expanding sales team.
Q:What opportunity does Axi 12 see with the potential entry of orexin-based products in the treatment of narcolepsy?
A:Axi 12 sees an opportunity in the treatment of narcolepsy with the potential entry of orexin-based products, acknowledging that there's a need for polypharmacy due to the trial and error involved in treating the condition. Axi 12 has strong data in cataplexy and daytime dosing, and feedback indicates positive effects on functional scores. Mechanistically, Axi 12 targets norepinephrine, which is in the same pathway as orexin-based products, offering potential advantages in treating comorbidities like depression. Axi 12 is excited about the potential impact on cognition and the overall safety and tolerability profile.






