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世纪互联 (VNET.US) 2025年第三季度业绩电话会
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Vnet Group Inc. achieved significant growth in its IDC businesses, with a 16.1% quarter-over-quarter increase in wholesale IDC capacity and a 21.7% year-over-year rise in total net revenues. The company's focus on AI-driven opportunities, operational efficiency, and strategic resource acquisition positions it for continued leadership in the IDC industry, with updated financial guidance reflecting accelerated customer movements and operational gains.
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Vnet Group Inc. Q3 2025 Earnings Call: Forward-Looking Statements and Financial Measures
The call introduces Vnet Group Inc.'s Q3 2025 earnings, covering forward-looking statements, GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures, and outlines the structure of the call including prepared remarks and Q&A session.
Strong Q3 Performance and Growth in Wholesale IDC Business Driven by AI Demand
The company reported robust Q3 2025 results with a 21.7% YoY revenue increase to RMB 2.58 billion, primarily due to a 82.7% YoY rise in wholesale IDC revenues to RMB 956 million. Wholesale capacity in service grew by 16.1% QoQ to 783 MW, with utilization at 74.3%. The company secured new orders totaling 63 MW in Q3, including a 40 MW order from an internet company and a 3 MW order from an intelligent driving company, reflecting strong AI-driven demand and operational efficiency gains.
Strong Q3 Growth, Robust Delivery Pipeline, and AI-Driven Strategy for Hyperscale 2.0
Wholesale business showed strong growth with 109 MW increase and stable utilization at 74.3%. Retail IDC business progressed with increased MRR per cabinet. Delivery capabilities remain strong, with 109 MW delivered in Q3 and plans for 306 MW over the next 12 months, supporting the company's Hyperscale 2.0 framework for AI-driven growth.
CFO's Analysis of Company's Operating and Financial Performance
A call was turned over to the CFO for a detailed discussion on the company's operating and financial outcomes, focusing on key performance metrics and financial health.
Q3 Financial Highlights and ESG Achievements Showcase Robust Growth and Sustainability
The company reported a 21.7% year-over-year increase in net revenues to RMB 2.58 billion, driven by a significant 82.7% growth in wholesale business. Adjusted EBITDA surged by 20% to 21%, excluding disposal gains. Robust liquidity and healthy debt ratios were maintained, with a focus on long-term debt maturity planning. CapEx for the year is expected to support planned wholesale IDC expansions. Sustainability efforts were recognized globally, with a Vnet score of 73, ranking in the top 8% of the IT service industry. The company reaffirms its commitment to high-quality growth and long-term value creation.
Q&A Session Highlights: Outlook for 2026 Order Tendering and Impact of Private Rate Filings
A Q&A session discussed the 2026 outlook for domestic ship capacity expansion and order tendering, along with the timeline, cash recycling, and impact of recent private rate filings. The session highlighted the company's strong quarterly results and provided insights into future strategies.
Market Stability and Growth in 2023 Amidst Increasing Demand and Domestic Chip Competition
As the year draws to a close, there's a focus on customer development paths indicating a stable market with moderate growth in 2023. Accelerated capacity delivery is anticipated due to heightened requirements. The domestic chip sector is evolving rapidly, with intensified competition among both established and emerging players, promising significant advancements and more customer choices.
Completion of Financial Capital Cycle with Successful Ritz Projects in Wholesale IDC
The dialogue highlights the successful execution of Ritz projects with wholesale IDC as underlying assets, marking the completion of the financial capital cycle including development, holding, and long-term operation.
Consolidation of Financial Statements for Ed Raised Projects and Future Plans
Ed raised projects are under review, with better expected valuation multiples. Upon successful issuance, financial statements will be consolidated, impacting group level revenue and EBITDA. Similar approach planned for future private risk projects with wholesale Idcs assets, aiming for completion by next year's Qi.
Investment Strategy Discussion with a Financial Analyst
An investor and a financial analyst engage in a detailed discussion about investment strategies, focusing on market trends and portfolio optimization techniques.
Geographical Preferences & Wholesale Demand Trends in Hebei & Jiangsu
Discussion on customer preferences across campuses in Hebei and Jiangsu, and insights into pricing trends for the fourth quarter and next year in the wholesale sector.
Client Considerations in IDC Demand Across Regions
Clients prioritize business type, product offerings proximity to headquarters, and scalability when placing IDC orders. Demand varies by region, with notable requests from Greater Bay Area, Delta, Hebei, and Wlan Chapel. Pricing for wholesale IDCs remained stable in Q3.
Enhanced Project Returns and Stable Pricing Strategies
Discusses improved project IRR due to faster customer adoption and stable pricing in balanced market areas, avoiding price wars.
Update on Project Progress, Seasonality Trends, and Resource Focus for Future Growth
The dialogue covers updates on ongoing projects, noting secured orders of 331 MW, and discusses future strategies for resource allocation focusing on land and power, emphasizing adaptability to customer demand and seasonal changes.
Strategic Planning for Resource Allocation and Growth in AI Services
A strategic approach to resource acquisition and allocation is detailed, focusing on adapting to AI trends, specifically the shift towards inferencing. Plans include repurposing cabinets, acquiring GPUs, and extending planning to a five-year horizon. Key areas for resource expansion are identified as the Greater Beijing area and the Yangtze River Delta, with exploration of additional regions to meet future client demands.
Prioritizing Time-to-Market and Latency in Customer Demand and Workflow Optimization
Discusses the ongoing importance of time-to-market for customers, the potential growth in demand influencing new orders, and the increasing significance of user latency in future workflows.
Meeting Customer Demand: Strategies for Accelerating Capacity and Reducing Latency
Discusses the challenge of balancing customer demand for rapid capacity expansion with the need for low latency in inferencing. Strategies include early planning for civil engineering and power supply, consolidating capacity through supply chain management, and adopting modular construction solutions.
Contract-to-Move Timeline Accommodations
Discussed the ability to adjust move-in timelines post-contract, with options for six-month and expedited three-month delivery, catering to customer expectations.
Q&A on IDC Business Growth and Sustainability
Discussion on IDC business growth, including wholesale utilization targets and retail sustainability drivers.
Sustaining Growth in Retail IDC Business through Value-Added Services and Capacity Optimization
Discusses strategies for increasing utilization rates and sustaining growth in the retail IDC sector, focusing on value-added services, capacity optimization, and adapting to customer demands for smart computing and storage solutions.
AI Training Demand & Data Center Expansion Strategies
Discussion on expanding into low-cost electricity regions for AI training, evolving supply-demand dynamics, and acceleration of data center projects post-IPO, alongside future funding strategies.
Advancing Domestic Corporate Bonds for Enhanced Financing
Discusses Beijing Vnet's acquisition of a favorable rating from a domestic institution, enabling the company to proactively advance the issuance of domestic corporate bonds, particularly science and tech innovation bonds, which offer very favorable interest rates, aiming to benefit from lower interest rates and broaden financing channels.
Analysis of CapEx Spending Trends and Financing Strategies for Next Year
The dialogue discusses the company's current CapEx spending, noting it is behind schedule compared to the capacity delivery plan. Management outlines the focus on wholesale IDC and Me watts CapEx, with a gradual reduction per unit. For next year's CapEx, the company plans to secure funding through asset securitization and corporate bond issuance, aiming to surpass the 2 billion RMB equity asset recycling achieved in 2025. The company is confident in maintaining a safe leverage ratio while funding its CapEx needs.
Analysis of Revenue Guidance and Margins Amid Rising Temperatures and Customer Movements
A discussion on potential reasons for a slight dip in Q4 revenue guidance and the impact of strong customer moving rates, alongside an explanation for a sequential decline in Q3 margins attributed to increased tariffs due to rising temperatures, while operational costs remain stable.
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Q:What were the key figures for wholesale and retail IDC business in the third quarter?
A:For the third quarter, the wholesale IDC business had a revenue of RMB 956 million with a significant year-over-year increase of 82.7%. The adjusted EBITDA was RMB 758 million, a 27.5% year-over-year increase. Retail IDC business showed a six consecutive quarters increase in MRR per cabinet to RMB 8948.
Q:What new orders were secured by Vnet Group Inc in the third quarter?
A:In the third quarter, Vnet Group Inc secured three new wholesale orders totaling 63 MW, including a 20 MW order from a JV project, a 40 MW order from an internet company, and a 3 MW order from an intelligent driving company, all located in the greater Beijing area. Additionally, they secured a combined capacity of approximately 2 MW in new retail orders across multiple retail data centers from customers in the cloud services, local services, and financial services sectors.
Q:How is AI influencing the IDC industry and Vnet Group Inc's business?
A:AI is becoming the core growth driver of the IDC industry, transforming business models from project-based to platform-as-a-service delivery, and increasing demand for integrated AI and data processing services. As an industry pioneer in IDC development, Vnet Group Inc is leveraging its insights, resources, and premium services to capitalize on structural growth opportunities and meet customer needs related to AI deployment.
Q:What was the growth path and utilization rate for the wholesale data centers as of the end of the third quarter?
A:As of the end of the third quarter, the wholesale data centers maintained a strong growth momentum with a capacity in service increase of around 109 MW to 783 MW, with a utilization rate remaining stable at 74.3%. This was primarily due to faster-than-anticipated capacity utilization rates at No campus 01, reaching 94.7%, and a total wholesale resource capacity of around 1.8 GW.
Q:What is the current delivery plan of Vnet Group Inc for the next 12 months?
A:Vnet Group Inc's delivery plan for the next 12 months includes a projected delivery of around 306 MW of capacity. This equates to approximately 132 MW during the fourth quarter of 2025 and the first quarter of 2026, and an additional 174 MW during the second and third quarters of 2026. The company has 7 data centers under construction, with 6 in the greater Beijing area and one in the Yangtze River Delta. However, these estimates are subject to change as the company gains further visibility over the coming quarters.
Q:What are the figures for adjusted cash gross profit and adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter?
A:The adjusted cash gross profit rose by 22.1% to RMB 1.05 billion, while the adjusted EBITDA grew year over year by RMB 794 million to RMB 2.945 billion.
Q:What were the improvements in adjusted cash gross margins and adjusted EBITDA margins for the third quarter?
A:The adjusted cash gross margins improved to 40.7% from 40.6% in the same period last year. The adjusted EBITDA margin rose to 29.4%, compared with 28% in the same period last year.
Q:What is the net debt to trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA ratio as of September 30, 2025?
A:As of September 30, 2025, the net debt to trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA ratio was 5.5, and the total debt to trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA ratio was 6.7.
Q:What are the updated expectations for full year CapEx spending and financial performance?
A:The full year CapEx is expected to be in the range of RMB 9 billion and RMB 10 billion. The company has also increased its full year revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance, expecting total net revenues to be in the range of RMB 9.55 billion to RMB 9.867 billion and adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of RMB 2.91 billion to RMB 2.945 billion.
Q:What are the sustainability performance achievements and future plans?
A:The company's sustainability performance has been recognized with a Vnet score of 73, ranking among the top 8% of the IT service industry globally. It has demonstrated comprehensive capabilities in sustainability development, and plans to continue consolidating core strengths and capital growth opportunities for sustainable long-term value for all stakeholders.
Q:What is the current outlook for overall order tendering in 2026 and what is the timeline for the new private REIT execution?
A:The outlook for 2026 is a fairly stable market with a moderate increase, driven by customers' detailed plans for nationwide growth and their need for faster delivery of capacities. The timeline for the new private REIT execution is pending, but the company is tracking and monitoring the development of domestic chips closely.
Q:Will the financial statements of the new projects be consolidated with the group level financial statements?
A:Yes, unlike the first RIT project, the financial statements of the two new projects will be consolidated into the group level financial statements, affecting revenue or EBITDA data.
Q:What is Vnet's approach to customer ordering across different regions?
A:Vnet does not have particular preferences regarding customer ordering across different regions; major considerations include the type of business, product proximity to the customer's headquarters, and the convenience of scaling up existing capacity.
Q:How has the pricing of wholesale IDCs been affected by recent observations?
A:The pricing of wholesale IDCs has been fairly stable according to observations in Q3. This stability is attributed to customers moving in faster than expected, resulting in better-than-anticipated IRR for these projects. Additionally, in areas with a tight supply and demand balance, Vnet does not engage in bidding wars with low prices, allowing for fairly stable order or contracted prices.
Q:What is Vnet's focus regarding the acquisition of new land and power resources?
A:Vnet is focusing on acquiring new land and power resources with an extended planning horizon of five years to accommodate future demand. The company values this highly and is strategic in planning resources, weighing factors such as demand splits, technology trends, and chip development. Acquisitions are planned for areas like the greater Beijing area, particularly Hebei and surrounding areas, and the Yangtze River Delta areas.
Q:How does the increase in inference demand impact user latency considerations?
A:The rise in inference demand implies a higher requirement for lower latency, making user latency a relatively more important consideration going forward. Vnet is well-positioned to meet customer needs in this regard, especially with its campuses in the greater Beijing area, particularly Hebei Province.
Q:What strategies is Vnet employing to meet customers' demand for capacity?
A:Vnet is employing three strategies to meet customer demand for capacity: early planning in civil engineering and external power supply, consolidation of capacity through supply chain management, and adoption of electro-mechanical modularization along with standardized construction methods.
Q:What are the company's expectations and capabilities regarding the delivery timeline for the IDC services?
A:The company is able to accommodate users' needs within the horizon expected by the customer, which can be as soon as three months after signing the contract in specific cases. For the utilization rate, the demand from customers is to move in at a faster pace, and the mature IDC fees utilization rate is close to 95%.
Q:What factors contribute to the growth of the retail IDC business?
A:The growth of the retail IDC business is attributed to a couple of factors: the addition of smart computing on top of storage and generic computing needs, which is being capitalized on by proactively repurposing cabinets; and the provision of incremental value-added services on the software level such as networking and storage services. Another factor is the initiative of repurposing retail cabinets into higher density ones, which is benefiting the company from these efforts and initiatives.
Q:What is the company's strategy regarding the expansion into regions with lower electricity costs to capture AI training demand?
A:The company is planning to expand into regions with lower electricity costs to capture AI training demand. The strategy is not detailed in the transcript, but it is implied that different companies are adopting different strategic approaches based on their readings of market dynamics and development legacy, and are deploying resources accordingly.
Q:How does the company anticipate the supply and demand dynamics will evolve in the regions where it currently has a first-mover advantage?
A:The company believes that foundational model training demand will be increasingly concentrated among a few top capable, deep-pocketed players. The company also believes that inferencing and private deployment will continue to sustain its growth momentum. Furthermore, as GPUs and domestic GPU chips grow, there will be more demand from inferencing, private deployment, and emerging intelligent agents.
Q:What does the company plan to do regarding funding strategies?
A:The company plans to adhere to the principle of coordinated, balanced development, using its resources to meet users' varying demands. The specifics of the funding strategy are not detailed in the transcript, but the company is actively advancing the issuance of domestic corporate bonds, particularly science and tech innovation bonds, which comes with very favorable interest rates.
Q:What is the potential impact of the issuance of domestic corporate bonds on the company's financing?
A:If the issuance of domestic corporate bonds is successful, the company will benefit from a lower interest rate and a wider channel of financing.
Q:How is the unit CapEx spending trend, and what factors influence it?
A:The unit CapEx spending trend is around 6 billion, which is a bit behind schedule versus the capacity delivery schedule. The majority of the CapEx is on the wholesale IDC, and the company is still in the process of putting together its CapEx for next year. The sources of funding would mainly come from asset securitization and issuance of domestic corporate bonds. The company is confident that it can fund its CapEx while keeping the leverage ratio within a secure range or safe range.
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