万国数据 (09698.HK、GDS.US) 2025年第三季度业绩电话会
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GDS Holdings reports a 10.2% revenue and 11.4% adjusted EBITDA growth, attributing success to AI infrastructure demand. With 900 MW powered land secured, the company anticipates 300 MW new bookings, 65% AI-related, leveraging a data center REIT IPO for capital. Focused on Tier 1 markets, they address power and regulatory challenges, aiming for accelerated growth through strategic land acquisitions.
会议速览
GDS Holdings Third Quarter Earnings Conference: Business Overview and Financial ReviewGDS Holdings invites participants to a conference call discussing Q3 earnings, business strategy, and financial results, featuring forward-looking statements and non-GAAP measures, with updates from the founder, chairman, and CFO.
Data Center Industry's Robust Recovery and Strategic Advancements in AI InfrastructureThe data center industry shows strong recovery with increased revenue and EBITDA, driven by AI demand. The company secures significant powered land, completes a successful REIT IPO, and aims for strategic expansion, maintaining financial discipline while pursuing new business aggressively.
Financial Performance Update, Asset Monetization, and Future Investment StrategyThe dialogue covers significant financial adjustments, including EBITDA growth and asset deconsolidation, highlights the successful trading of Sea REIT units, outlines a strategy for capital recycling and new investments, and discusses the positive impact of asset monetization on China's business funding, along with future growth projections and regulatory considerations.
China Market Inflection and Aggressive Investment StrategiesDiscusses the approaching inflection point in the China market, driven by strong market demand and domestic chip advancements. Highlights the strategy of acquiring more land in areas with cheap power and proximity to major cities to capture AI and data center opportunities. Also touches on the effective capital recycling through the platform, aiming for improved investment returns.
Investment Attractiveness in China's Data Centers Amid Stable Prices and Low Development CostsThe discussion highlights the attractiveness of investing in China's data centers due to stable selling prices, low unit development costs, and the potential for generating high cash yields. It emphasizes the right timing for investment, considering the current market conditions, and the projected returns over a 5 to 6-year period, which are deemed very attractive.
Strategies for Expanding Business and Acquiring Power Land in Competitive MarketsDiscussed future booking strategies, emphasizing potential land acquisitions for business growth and addressing challenges in acquiring power codes amidst regulatory controls, highlighting successful government relations and past experiences as key advantages.
Update on Day One Funding, IPO Potential, and GPU Install Ramping OutlookThe dialogue covers an update on Day One's funding situation post-Series C and B, highlighting strong business performance in Asia Pacific and Europe with robust demand. It also discusses the potential for ramping up GPU installs, with optimism about future prospects despite current uncertainties.
AI Data Center Expansion and Construction TimelinesDiscussion on deploying gigawatt-scale AI projects in China, with construction timelines typically ranging from 9 to 12 months, and occasionally faster, highlighting the rapid growth in AI data center demand.
Data Center Industry Updates: AI Exposure, New Orders, and Chinese Government GuidanceThe dialogue covers new orders in the China market, emphasizing AI exposure and the percentage of AI-related bookings. It also discusses the Chinese government's window guidance on suppliers, the challenges in securing power, and the encouragement for data center construction in remote areas.
Pricing Trends & Market Dynamics: Insights into Data Center IndustryThe dialogue explores the impact of contract renewals on pricing trends, predicting a decline in MSR due to downward price resets and increased mobility. It also discusses the stable pricing and returns in new data center builds, contrasting them with the price drops in edge and cloud data centers, emphasizing the industry's supply-demand dynamics and cost stability.
Financial Capability as a Competitive Advantage in the Evolving Market LandscapeThe dialogue underscores the importance of financial capability in gaining customer trust and securing large-scale projects. It highlights that access to capital markets and strong cash positions are becoming critical competitive advantages, positioning the company ahead of competitors who may lack both land capability and financing prowess.
Conference Concludes with Farewell and Line Disconnection InstructionsA conference ends with the speaker thanking attendees, signaling the conclusion, and instructing participants to disconnect their lines.
要点回答
Q：What are the financial results of GDS Holdings Limited for the third quarter?
A：GDS Holdings Limited reported a 10.2% increase in revenue and a 11.4% increase in adjusted EBITDA year on year for the third quarter.
Q：How much growth area was utilized in the third quarter, and what is the current status of the backlog?
A：During the third quarter, a growth area of around 23,000 square meters was utilized. The company is on track to achieve its highest ever year of moving with a visibility of over 24,000 square meters from the backlog for the following year.
Q：What is the percentage of new bookings related to AI in 2025, and what is the company's confidence in future AI demand?
A：Approximately 65% of GDS's new bookings in 2025 are related to AI. The company has unwavering confidence in future AI demand based on the development and ramp-up of domestic technologies.
Q：What is the strategy of GDS regarding AI power and capital?
A：GDS has secured around 900 MW of powered land for AI demand, particularly for AI inference. The company is in the process of securing more powered land and aims to monetize assets efficiently through its recently completed IPO of a data center REIT in China.
Q：What are the key points of GDS's financial and operating review?
A：GDS's adjusted EBITDA grew year on year, and it deconsolidated data center project companies sold to an ABS and a C REIT. The company's Seaweed unit was listed on the Shanghai Stock Exchange and is 45.8% up from the IPO price, trading at a projected EBITDA and implying a dividend yield. GDS is preparing assets for a post-IPO injection with a target enterprise value of around 4 to 6 billion RMB, which is expected to provide a compelling return on new investments.
Q：What are the expectations for organic CapEx and operating cash flow for the full year?
A：The company expects its organic CapEx for the full year to be around 4.8 billion RMB, and after taking into account the asset monetization proceeds, the net CapEx will be around 3.6 billion RMB. The operating cash flow for the full year is expected to be around 3.6 billion RMB.
Q：How does the company plan to approach the China market's inflection point?
A：The company plans to be more aggressive in the China market by acquiring more land, particularly in locations with cheap power and close to tier-1 cities. They are in the process of land acquisition and expect to make some announcements in the next earnings call.
Q：What type of projects and locations is the company focusing on for expansion?
A：The company is focusing on acquiring more land in areas with cheap power and close to tier-1 cities. They are pursuing projects that leverage their large land bank and are in the process of land acquisition.
Q：What is the company's strategy regarding investments and how does it evaluate them?
A：The company evaluates investments based on a 5- to 6-year investment horizon, considering an IRR of the mid to low teens and a levered IRR well into the teens. They consider the construction time and the time required for customers to fully move in before injecting the assets into CREITs. They believe the timing is right for new investments due to stable prices and development costs near the historical bottom.
Q：Is the company expecting to acquire new power land for future data centers?
A：The company is expecting to make new bookings next year, and if successful in acquiring new land, they can do more. They are focusing on securing land and power to enhance their future data center capabilities.
Q：What is the company's view on acquiring power for data centers?
A：The company views obtaining power for data centers as a general challenge but is optimistic due to their track record, experience in building relationships with governments and power companies, and successful past experiences in acquiring power for their projects.
Q：Can you provide an update on the private round funding and potential IPO?
A：The speaker provided an update on private round funding but the content is not included in the provided transcript. For potential IPO details, the speaker mentioned that they can give an update but the content is not provided in the transcript either.
Q：What is the current status of Day 1's independence and its equity value increase?
A：Day 1 is fully independent after series C and B funding and has experienced a positive equity value increase for its shareholders. The business in Asia Pacific and Europe has continued to remain very strong and positive with strong demand.
Q：Can you describe the potential for additional installations and the ramp-up of new business in Day 1?
A：The potential for additional installations and the ramp-up of new business in Day 1 remain very strong and positive. However, specific details about the ramp-up were not disclosed in the GDS earnings call.
Q：What is the opportunity for training at the gigawatt scale in China and how does the construction time compare to traditional cloud data centers?
A：There is a strong opportunity for training at the gigawatt scale in China, similar to the U.S. The construction time for AI data centers is approximately 9 to 12 months, which is very fast. In some cases, it can even be built within a year, which is a record in China. There are no reported constraints or long lead times that would be of concern.
Q：What is the composition of the new order in China, particularly in terms of AI exposure and model training?
A：The new order in China is nearly 30 MW and is expected to be mainly focused on AI inferencing and a combination of AI inferencing and training. This will be deployed within established cloud regions and availability zones. Approximately 65% of the new bookings for the year are AI-related, which is mainly due to the presence in tier 1 and tier 2 markets.
Q：What is the impact of the Chinese government's tightened supplier window guidance and how does the company manage this?
A：The company has not directly felt the tightening of suppliers due to guidance from Chinese authorities, mainly because most of its electricity is already concentrated in or near first-tier city markets. Although obtaining power in some remote areas may be difficult, local governments encourage the construction of data centers in these locations. The company has prepared in advance for these market changes and has enough power reserves to support business growth.
Q：What are the pricing trends and the competitive landscape in the industry?
A：Pricing trends show a decrease in prices due to renewal periods of store-based contracts, resulting in a 6% to 8% decrease in MSAP over the year. This is influenced by both the downward price reset and higher levels of migration, which have a dilutive effect on NSR. Financial capability is increasingly important for customer trust and reliability, and the company has a strong competitive advantage in access to capital markets and a solid cash position, making it ahead of other competitors in terms of financing capability.
