阿里巴巴(BABA.US/09988.HK)2025财年第四季度业绩电话会
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Alibaba Group discusses its monetization strategies, including the rollout of software service fees and AI applications in e-commerce to enhance user experience and efficiency. The company also highlights significant growth in cloud revenue, driven by AI demand, and plans for continued innovation and investment in user experience and price competitiveness to stabilize market share.
会议速览
Innovative Technologies and Global Trade ImplicationsThe dialogue explores advancements in AI technology, its global impact, and the strategic positioning of leading tech companies in the evolving landscape of international trade and innovation.
Strategic Financial Management and AI Integration in Business OperationsDiscussions revolve around financial strategies, contributions in yuan, and the integration of AI to enhance business operations, efficiency, and market competitiveness. Significant emphasis is placed on investment, cost management, and the transformative impact of AI on various industries, indicating a forward-looking approach to leveraging technology for economic growth and optimization.
2025 Financial Performance and Strategic Expansion UpdateThe discussion highlights the successful financial growth, including EBITDA increases and revenue expansions, alongside plans for strategic market expansion and customer base enlargement as of May 16, 2025.
Global Market Inquiry Session: Economic Queries and Operator InstructionsIn a May 16, 2025 market inquiry session, participants are guided on how to ask questions. Gary from Morgan Stanley inquires about a specific market situation, seeking insights on recent developments.
AI's Impact on Cloud Monetization and E-commerce Market ShareDiscussion highlights the evolving dynamics of AI monetization in cloud services, noting increased enterprise adoption and seeking guidance for FY26 cloud revenues. Additionally, it explores the future of AI applications in e-commerce, projecting market share growth and potential for monetization expansion over the next two to three years.
AI-Driven Cloud Revenue Growth and Diversifying Demand in Various SectorsCloud revenue increased by 18% year over year, significantly influenced by AI demand, which has seen triple-digit growth for seven consecutive quarters. Initially adopted by internet and related sectors, AI services are now expanding into new industries like animal farming, manufacturing, and small commodity businesses, prompting a shift towards cloud adoption for enhanced AI capabilities and integration with proprietary data and processes.
AI's Transformational Impact on Alibaba's Cloud and E-commerce SectorsThe speaker discusses the significant growth in revenues for Alibaba Cloud due to increasing adoption of cloud-based AI services. They also highlight the potential of AI in enhancing user experience, improving efficiency for employees and merchants, and creating new forms of interaction in e-commerce.
Monetization Strategies and Long-term Initiatives for Taobao and TmallThe discussion focuses on the evolving monetization strategies for Taobao and Tmall, including the introduction of software service fees and the consideration of merchant ROI and competitive positioning. There's an inquiry into whether these recent initiatives mark the beginning of a multi-year plan to enhance monetization rates.
Strategies for Enhancing Monetization and Market StabilizationThe company's primary objective is to stabilize market share, with monetization rate reflecting market presence. New products, including Q ZTE, have improved monetization, particularly for white label merchants. Commission on payments has also impacted current monetization. Future strategies focus on enhancing user experience, optimizing monetization rate, growing GMV, and piloting innovative monetization models, including AI.
Alibaba Cloud's Growth and AI Model Demand Post-Spring FestivalFollowing the Spring Festival, Alibaba Cloud experienced a significant increase in demand for inference workloads, with notable growth in new customers and compute power requirements. Smaller AI models are utilized on local devices, complementing cloud services, while larger models necessitate cloud computing for efficient scaling and cost-effectiveness.
Alibaba's Strategy and Advantages in China's Instant Commerce MarketAlibaba plans to invest 10 billion yuan to expand its presence in the instant commerce sector, leveraging its existing capabilities, broad user base, experienced merchant network, and robust logistics system to meet the rapidly growing demand for instant commerce in China, despite intensified competition.
Exceeding Expectations: Taobao's Instant Commerce ExpansionThe recent trials of Taobao's instant commerce service have surpassed expectations in scale and efficiency. This development promises increased user engagement and synergies between national and local e-commerce, with a focus on aggressive investment and user conversion in the near future.
Strategies and Expectations for the Upcoming 618 Campaign and Instant Commerce SynergiesThe discussion outlines strategies for the imminent 618 promotion, emphasizing changes in marketing and pacing to enhance consumer experience. Additionally, it explores the integration of instant commerce with Taobao, aiming for rapid user conversion and high engagement, with plans for future synergies between instant, hyperlocal, and nationwide commerce.
Analysis of CMR Growth Drivers and Monetization Strategies for Fiscal 2025-26The CMR growth this quarter was driven by the implementation of a software service fee and increased penetration of advertising revenues. Looking ahead, the continuation of the software service fee, rollback of merchant rebates, and further penetration of advertising products are expected to positively impact monetization rates. Special emphasis is placed on acquiring new merchants, particularly small and medium-sized businesses, to adopt advertising products, contributing to incremental advertising revenue and driving growth in monetization.
Investment Stage and EBITDA Fluctuations in the Medium Term StrategyThe company is focusing on stabilizing market share through investments in user experience and price competitive products, expecting EBITDA fluctuations due to ongoing investment stage and new ventures in quick commerce, impacting user growth and stickiness.
要点回答
Q：Which company's AI solutions are mentioned?
A：Alibaba's AI solutions are mentioned in the speech, along with the Alibaba Cloud and their various offerings and collaborations.
Q：Who is highlighted as an AI champion?
A：The AI champion highlighted in the speech is not clearly identified due to the fragmented and unclear content, but the context suggests someone or an entity involved in significant AI accomplishments.
Q：How is the achievement of an AI champion described?
A：The achievement of the AI champion is described as outstanding, with contributions that significantly impact the field, leading to advancements and innovations.
Q：What are the roles and contributions of women and men in AI according to the speech?
A：The speech implies that both women and men have contributed to AI, with the mention of 'Women' and 'Men' in the context of AI advancement, but specific roles and contributions are not clearly detailed.
Q：What does the speech imply about the future of AI?
A：The speech suggests that the future of AI is promising, with mentions of advancements, AI champions, and the ongoing progress in the field indicating a positive outlook.
Q：What are the recent trends in cloud revenue growth driven by AI?
A：In the most recently concluded quarter, the company's cloud revenue grew by 18% year over year, primarily due to the demand related to AI. AI-driven cloud revenue has been growing by triple digits for seven consecutive quarters.
Q：Which new companies are adopting AI services and migrating to the cloud?
A：New companies that are adopting AI services and migrating to the cloud include those in the animal husbandry sector, manufacturing sector, as well as EU small and commodity cities and companies. These companies, which might have previously used IDC or internal server rooms for services, now migrate onto the cloud to utilize AI, especially when implementing AI applications and integrating with enterprise-specific processes.
Q：How is the demand for AI services among new companies categorized?
A：The demand for AI services among new companies is categorized as the migration of previously offline workloads to the cloud to accommodate AI applications. These companies, which may have used IDC or internally hosted services before, require powerful incentives to transition onto the cloud. Post-training on open source models is often conducted to meet enterprise-specific needs and integrate with internal proprietary data and processes.
Q：What specific industries are now adopting AI services and migrating to the cloud?
A：Specific industries that are now adopting AI services and migrating to the cloud include animal husbandry, manufacturing, and small and commodity cities and companies. These sectors, which may have previously handled workloads offline, are increasingly adopting AI and migrating these services onto the cloud to facilitate their digital transformation and integration of AI applications.
Q：What trends are being seen across different sectors with the adoption of cloud-based AI services?
A：The trend is a significant growth track for revenues in Alibaba Cloud, as companies that traditionally used CPU-based compute are now adopting AI and AI compute.
Q：How is Alibaba leveraging AI to enhance user experience and operational efficiency?
A：Alibaba is using AI to enhance user experience by reshaping the consumer experience with AI, particularly in search recommendations and advertising. Internally, AI is being utilized to boost working efficiency for employees and merchants, and to elevate efficiency across the entire ecosystem.
Q：What long-term effects does Alibaba anticipate from the adoption of AI?
A：Alibaba expects AI to create new forms of interaction and engagement, with ongoing innovation in forms of interaction and engagement for the future.
Q：What is the overall direction and goal in terms of monetization for Taobao and Tmall?
A：The overall direction is to stabilize market share in the mid to long term, with a focus on the size of the market share reflected in the monetization rate. While the company has implemented various monetization initiatives, such as the 0.6% software service fee on Taobao, the focus is on optimizing the monetization rate by enhancing user experience and business model efficiency.
Q：How has Alibaba's monetization approach evolved over the past year?
A：Over the past year, Alibaba has rolled out new products like Q ZTE to improve the monetization of traditional advertising products for certain merchants, as well as introduced commission on payments. In the next few quarters, the company expects to continue this trend of improving monetization. Long-term, the goal is to enhance user experience, optimize the monetization rate, and implement different monetization products and models, potentially involving AI.
Q：What does Alibaba foresee regarding the growth rate of Alibaba Cloud and the demand for inference workloads?
A：Alibaba Cloud experienced a surge in demand for inference workloads starting from the Spring Festival. The growth rate is expected to continue, with a rapid acceleration in February and March compared to January. The exact month-over-month growth rate is not quantified, but the demand for inference compute power is anticipated to increase across different AI models, both small and large.
Q：What is the impact of the Chinese New Year on the pace of cloud revenue growth?
A：The Chinese New Year, occurring in the first quarter of January, February, and March, caused a period that was not representative of the overall pace of developments in cloud revenue growth. The quarter after the Spring Festival, however, showed a significant increase in new customers and demand for inference workloads.
Q：What is the regular pace of growth expected to be in the cloud business?
A：The regular pace of growth in the cloud business is expected to continue at a rate similar to the surge seen in demand growth post-Spring Festival, which was not influenced by the disruptions in supply chains and seasonal impacts present in January, February, and March.
Q：How do smaller AI models affect the cloud business?
A：Smaller AI models, with around 3 billion parameters or fewer, are primarily used on edge devices like mobile phones, toys, and smart devices, and thus have a limited impact on driving cloud business. However, these same customers using these models are likely to require additional usage of cloud-based compute resources.
Q：What is the role of larger AI models in the cloud?
A：Larger AI models, with 30 billion parameters or higher, cannot be adequately run on consumer-grade video processing cards; they require the elasticity and scaling capabilities of the cloud to run applications well and meet workload requirements.
Q：Why is the investment in the prescots business being made now?
A：The investment in the prescots business is being made now to leverage Alibaba's existing capabilities and strong market position in the instant commerce sector, driven by the significant consumer demand for instant commerce services and the potential to reach a large user base.
Q：How will the investment in the prescots business impact profitability?
A：The investment in the prescots business is expected to boost profitability for local services by growing the market and ensuring an excellent service experience. The company's strong merchant base, logistical system, and user base on Taobao make it well-positioned to integrate instant commerce into the platform and provide excellent user engagement.
Q：What are the potential benefits of expanding instant commerce on the Taobao app?
A：Expanding instant commerce on the Taobao app is expected to drive higher user engagement, combine nationwide with local or hyperlocal e-commerce, and convert more Taobao app users into instant commerce users. This will not only enhance user engagement but also allow for the development of new business formats and drive further engagement with the app.
Q：What synergies can be expected between instant commerce and the 618 campaign?
A：The text suggests there may be synergies between instant commerce and the 618 campaign, implying that there could be 'happy surprises' in the instant commerce space connected with 618, but it does not provide concrete details or expectations.
Q：What is the strategic direction for instant commerce?
A：The strategic direction for instant commerce includes rapidly converting existing Taobao users into instant commerce users, with a focus on achieving high conversion rates and strong consumer engagement. Initial results have been positive, with high levels of return and engagement from consumers. The goal is to get the instant commerce business right, with potential for synergy with hyperlocal and nationwide commerce in the long term.
Q：What is the impact of the software service fee and the penetration of QZ on monetization?
A：The software service fee, which started last year, and the growing penetration of QZ are the two major drivers of monetization growth mentioned in the quarter. The software service fee is expected to continue positively impacting monetization, especially as rebates to some merchants are gradually rolled back. QZ penetration is in line with expectations, and its progress is having a positive effect on monetization rates, with new merchants contributing to this growth.
Q：What is the impact of investments in user experience and price competitive products on EBITDA?
A：The investments in user experience and price competitive products, along with other competitive developments, are expected to have an impact on EBITDA. These investments will result in new user growth and increased frequency and stickiness, which may supplant some original investments in market growth. As a result, EBITDA is expected to fluctuate in line with competitive dynamics over the next few quarters.
