Roku Inc-A (ROKU.US) 2025年第二季度业绩电话会
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Roku is actively promoting subscriptions through improved recommendations and bundling capabilities, leveraging content acquisitions to attract subscribers. The company is also expanding its platform revenue through the Roku Ads Manager, targeting the performance-based advertising market, particularly small and medium-sized businesses. With a focus on monetization initiatives and strategic investments, Roku aims to sustain double-digit platform revenue growth and improve profitability.
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During Roku's second quarter earnings conference call in 2025, company executives shared its strong financial performance, highlighting a platform revenue growth of 18%, with video advertising revenue growing faster than the OTT and digital advertising markets. Roku emphasized the effectiveness of its strategies, including expanding advertising demand, deepening third-party partnerships, launching new products and services, and successfully acquiring and integrating Friendly. Executives stated that these initiatives have driven sustained double-digit growth in platform revenue, and they expect further profit growth in 2026, projecting a positive operating income in the fourth quarter and a consistent growth rate in operating expenses and platform profit margin for the year as in 2025.

The conversation discussed Roku's progress in the advertising business, including its relationships with third-party partners and the development of Roku Ads Manager. Roku Ads Manager was noted as a rapidly growing market, primarily targeting performance-based advertisers, especially small and medium-sized enterprises, opening up new opportunities for Roku. Additionally, the third-party partnerships have been performing well in dealing with traditional video advertisers, with both considered complementary rather than cannibalizing each other. Furthermore, the discussion also touched on the macroeconomic environment, pointing out that despite economic uncertainties, Roku's performance in the advertising market remains strong, especially in sports event advertising.

The conversation discussed the growth situation of the platform in the second and third quarters, mentioning that after removing specific factors (such as 606, political, and friendly), the growth rate is around 20% to 18%. It analyzed whether this change was due to conservative forecasts or slowing store sales. At the same time, the forecast of the platform's gross profit margin of 51% was also discussed, inquiring about whether this was affected by changes in the revenue proportion of advertising and Media & Entertainment (M&E) with video, as well as the dynamics of programmatic advertising.

The company expects the growth rate from Q2 to Q4 to remain around 17%, excluding the impact of political factors, the growth trend is stable and positive. At the same time, the company anticipates that the platform gross margin will be between 51% and 52%. Although growth in some high-margin businesses such as M and E is slowing down, the company can maintain this level of gross margin through efficiency improvements and cost controls. If the M and E businesses rebound, there will be room for an increase in gross margin, but the current forecast does not include assumptions of significant growth.

During the discussion, it was mentioned that the company expects its gross profit margin in the fourth quarter to be higher than 20% for the full year, mainly due to the benefits of fixed cost allocation resulting from increased sales volume. In addition, the company announced a $4 billion share repurchase plan aimed at offsetting dilution effects, while continuing to implement its net share settlement strategy. Regarding capital allocation, the company emphasized investments in acquisitions, strategic investments, share repurchases, and platform initiatives, demonstrating the comprehensiveness of its capital allocation strategy.

In the discussion, emphasis was placed on Roku's strong pricing power in the digital advertising and content distribution fields, utilizing its proprietary data and content. Further exploration was made on how Roku evaluates its own value and whether it could potentially achieve greater business value by joining a larger entity, especially in the face of rising competition. Additionally, strategies for collaboration with third-party DSPs and Amazon were discussed, as well as how these partnerships could deepen the platform's revenue growth strategy, including leveraging its homepage assets and subscription business. These discussions highlighted Roku's positioning in the market, strategic adjustments, and future development direction.

Discussed were strategies for deep integration and customization cooperation with different Digital Signal Processors (DSPs), emphasizing the uniqueness of each DSP and its different technical stacks and approaches to the market. Through customized deals, the aim is to help marketers achieve their goals on each specific platform while maintaining openness and interoperability with all DSPs. Successful collaboration cases with DSPs such as Trade Desk, Amazon, Yahoo, and Google were mentioned, along with a deeper integration announcement with Apple. The core of the strategy is to tailor solutions around customer needs while maintaining close partnerships with all major DSPs to drive business growth and improve effectiveness.

The discussion focuses on the opportunities for Roku's advertising manager in the small and medium-sized business (SMB) and performance marketing markets, especially in comparison to the market structures of online display versus search and social advertising. It highlights that the success of performance advertising will depend on the ability to prove ROI, as well as Roku's leading position in educating on TV shopping. Additionally, it mentions the strong growth of Roku's channel (TRC), which saw an 80% growth rate in the second quarter, although it is expected that growth rates in future quarters may decrease, it is still expected to maintain double-digit high-speed growth.

In the conversation, Dan discussed the progress of deep integration of Friendly TV with the platform, including adding it to the homepage application when new devices are activated and indexing Friendly TV in search results for live television to increase its exposure and subscription volume on the platform. At the same time, Anthony mentioned the advertising challenges faced by Wal-Mart during the holiday season, and the company is taking various tools and strategies to alleviate the related pressure.

The conversation discussed Roku's confidence in its market-leading position and future growth after Walmart's acquisition of Vizio Smartcast. Despite the acquisition being 18 months ago, Roku still believes it can continue to increase its penetration in broadband households globally and achieve double-digit growth in platform revenue by improving its monetization capabilities in the US and international markets. Roku emphasized its market-leading operating system and strong brand effect established in the past 15 years, which continues to drive consumer demand for its products. In addition, Roku plans to continue investing hundreds of millions of dollars annually in distribution strategies, including adjusting investment ratios among retail partners as needed to ensure its sustained growth in the streaming home market.

When facing the attention and concerns of the Connected TV (CTV) advertising market, Roku emphasizes that it can effectively manage and price its advertising inventory based on its market size, market leadership position, and unique advertising products. Regardless of market fluctuations, Roku can maintain inventory scarcity and price stability through diversified demand and offering advertising products at different price points, including high-end sponsorships and sports content, as well as a broader, lower-priced streaming video package. The company's recent early market trading did not show a downward trend in prices, so it remains optimistic.

During the discussion, Roku detailed its strategy to guide users to subscribe to new services through recommendation systems, as well as increase subscription revenue by bundling sales with its own services (such as Friendly). At the same time, the company is also considering how to optimize UI and improve its technical and product capabilities to promote more subscriptions and bundled service sales, thereby diversifying its sources of revenue.

In the discussion, it was mentioned how to optimize the user interface (UI) through complex machine learning algorithms to balance audience satisfaction and company revenue. This includes deciding whether to prioritize promoting Roku's own content or paid content, while taking into account audience viewing preferences, advertising inventory fill rates, and content promotion costs. The team is committed to maintaining audience engagement through this algorithm while ensuring stable revenue growth. This is an ongoing project, and the team believes they are performing well in this area and will continue to improve.

Since its launch in September last year, Roku Ads Manager has been gradually entering a multi-billion dollar market that has not been fully explored by TV platforms, especially targeting small and medium-sized businesses. Although initially the product's financial impact on the company is not significant, it is attracting more advertisers and revenue every month, showing a clear growth trend. The market estimates that the performance-based advertising market is worth over $60 billion, and Roku is attracting more and more small and medium-sized businesses to join through its self-service product and professional artificial intelligence-generated videos. The company is excited about the potential of this market and plans to increase marketing efforts to further expand its business in this area.

In this conference call, the company's management team reviewed the performance of the second quarter in detail, emphasizing the strong growth in the quarter and raising the full-year performance expectations. They discussed the growth of the advertising platform, including the good performance of video ads in the market and the positive feedback on new ad management tools. In addition, the management team also mentioned the progress of integration with Amazon DSP, pointing out that although this process takes time, the company is optimistic about it and looks forward to more demand growth in the future. At the same time, they also mentioned that there was no significant growth seen in the media and entertainment (M&E) sector, but do not see it as a major driver of future growth. Overall, the company is satisfied with the current performance of its advertising and subscription businesses and is confident about future development.
要点回答
Q:What factors contributed to the outperformance in Q2 and the full-year revenue growth projection?
A:The outperformance in Q2 and the full-year revenue growth projection were driven by the company's strategy to grow its platform revenue, which included executing on their revenue growth strategy and seeing results from their focus on monetization initiatives. These initiatives included growing video advertising on their platform faster than the overall OTT and digital ad markets in the U.S., enhancing ad demand through third-party partnerships and product launches such as the Roku Streaming Stick.
Q:How is the company's platform revenue growth strategy performing?
A:The company's platform revenue growth strategy is performing well, having grown platform revenue by 18% year-over-year in Q2. The strategy is credited with sustaining double-digit platform revenue growth while simultaneously improving profitability.
Q:What role do third-party partnerships and the Roku Ads Manager play in the company's advertising strategy?
A:Third-party partnerships and the Roku Ads Manager play a crucial role in the company's advertising strategy by expanding demand and attracting a broader range of advertisers. The Roku Ads Manager specifically addresses performance-based advertisers, such as small and mid-sized businesses, which are traditionally advertisers on social media but are now bringing video advertising to Roku. This partnership strategy aligns with the company's focus on diversifying demand and is working well, contributing to the positive revenue results.
Q:How are the trends in demand and market health now compared to those three months ago?
A:The company's view on the current trends in demand and market health compared to three months ago is positive. The company's strategy of diversifying demand through third-party partnerships and the expansion of the Roku Ads Manager is showing strength, and it is contributing to the sustained double-digit platform revenue growth. Market trends are improving, which is reflected in the company's results and their outlook for the remainder of the year and into 2026.
Q:What are the recent trends in the upfront market and how does it reflect on the company's position?
A:The upfront market has shown positive growth, with the team executing brilliantly. It has transformed into a full-year-long marketplace and a performance-driven environment for television, which positions the company well. Additionally, sports performed very well, supported by the macro economy and live events, bolstering the company's unique assets like the sports zone.
Q:What is the growth rate excluding political and friendly influences, and what is the projected margin for Q3 and the full year?
A:Growth, excluding political and friendly influences, was about 17% for Q2 and is projected to be around 18% for Q3. The projected full-year margin is implied to be at a similar level to Q4. The platform gross margin is guided to stay in the 51% to 52% range, supported by the offset of mix impact with efficient operations.
Q:How will the platform margins be impacted by the mix of higher margin activities like M and E?
A:Higher margin activities like M and E are expected to grow slower than other activities, but the company is able to offset this with efficiency improvements. If M and E were to rebound, it could result in margin upside, although the company is not planning for significant growth in that area.
Q:What is the forecast for Q4's gross margin and how does it leverage volume increase?
A:Q4 is forecasted to show a higher gross margin than the 20% for the full year, primarily due to a leverage effect from a volume increase, which also affects fixed components in the gross margin line item.
Q:Can you discuss the timing and rationale for future share repurchase and its impact on shareholder return?
A:The timing of share repurchase is such that it will come on top of net share settlement, enhancing shareholder return. The rationale is to offset dilution, which is being done via net share settlement. The company plans to execute the share repurchase program while continuing to invest in platform initiatives.
Q:What is the company's strategy regarding proprietary data and content in the face of rising blockchain adoption?
A:The company has proprietary data and content, which becomes more valuable with blockchain adoption. The strategy involves determining the point at which such assets can be more effectively utilized as part of something larger rather than standalone. The company also has exclusive rights to the Roku panel, which is not open for bid, and reasons for exclusive deals versus open bids were not detailed in the transcript.
Q:What are the three parts of the strategy to grow platform revenue?
A:The three parts of the strategy to grow platform revenue are: (1) deepen integration with third-party demand-side platforms (DSPs), (2) lean into the home screen to better utilize it for viewers and monetization, and (3) focus on the large subscription business and explore more with first-party subscriptions.
Q:What is the nature of the speaker's strategy with respect to integrating with demand-side platforms (DSPs)?
A:The speaker's strategy with respect to integrating with demand-side platforms (DSPs) involves working with all of them and striving to have deep integration with each one. Each deal with a DSP is customized for that particular partner and is aimed at helping marketers achieve their objectives on each specific platform.
Q:What is the approach to customizing deals with each DSP partner?
A:The approach to customizing deals with each DSP partner involves understanding the unique aspects of each DSP, including their technology stacks and market approaches, and tailoring the deals to best fit each partner's needs without tying the company's hands in future deals with other DSPs.
Q:Can you name some of the companies the speaker has partnered with for integrating their DSPs onto the platform?
A:The speaker mentioned partnerships with Trade Desks and Amazon DSP as examples. Additionally, they have partnered with companies like Yahoo and have announced a deeper integration with Apple's IDFA.
Q:How does the speaker's platform support various marketer objectives and provide unique use cases?
A:The speaker's platform supports various marketer objectives and provides unique use cases by having an extensive data set of over 100 million active users, measuring outcomes effectively, and by working with a diverse range of agency partners to meet their clients' specific needs.
Q:What is the speaker's position on the market structure for performance marketing and programmatic trading?
A:The speaker's position on the market structure for performance marketing and programmatic trading is positive. They believe that the winners will be those who can prove that a dollar spent generates the desired result. They see early positive signs in formats like shoppable ads and expect to be leaders in teaching the world how to shop on television.
Q:What are the speaker's thoughts on the performance opportunity inCTB compared to search and social to online display?
A:The speaker is excited about the performance opportunity in CTB (cost per thousand impressions) compared to search and social to online display. They believe that performance markers and programmatic trading will likely gravitate towards platform-direct opportunities rather than working through DSPs. The speaker also thinks that the market will not be governed by a 'winner-takes-most' scenario but rather by the ability to offer multihoming costs to early or largest players, which could lead to an outsized monetization.
Q:What is the focus regarding the small and medium-sized business (SMB) opportunity and self-serve ads on Roku?
A:The focus regarding the small and medium-sized business (SMB) opportunity and self-serve ads on Roku is on the performance aspect. The speaker is optimistic about the opportunity for hundreds or thousands of new advertisers to use self-serve ads, driven by performance. They see this as a new market with potential for many players, where the demand for self-serve ads is growing, revenue is increasing, and the number of advertisers using the self-service platform is expanding.
Q:What was the growth rate for the Roku channel in Q2 and what is the expectation for future growth?
A:The growth rate for the Roku channel in Q2 was around 80%. The expectation is for the growth rate to come down in future quarters due to a tougher comp with content on the home screen but it is still expected to grow well into the double digits.
Q:What early learnings have been observed regarding the cross-selling opportunity into the base of streaming households?
A:Early learnings on cross-selling opportunities into the base of streaming households include the integration of services like Sling TV, which has increased app installations and made it more exposed on the platform. The company has also indexed Sling TV into live TV search results. Further growth initiatives are planned to leverage the platform to drive more subscriptions.
Q:How is Roku planning to manage advertising volume and maintain prices for connected TV advertising?
A:Roku is managing the volume of ads by maintaining its position as a market leader in terms of engagement and by continuing to invest in its operating system and distribution. This allows for efficient pricing across a range of inventory and effective handling of a fluctuating price market.
Q:What is the strategy for diversifying demand and meeting advertisers where they wish to transact or purchase media?
A:Roku's strategy for diversifying demand includes handling transactions and media purchases efficiently, ranging from premium sponsorships to broader streaming video packages with lower Cpms. This approach allows for pricing efficiency and effective management of inventory.
Q:How is Roku considering the bundling of services and the use of the home screen to drive subscription revenue?
A:Roku is exploring opportunities for bundling other services with the acquisition of Sling TV and is looking at using the home screen to drive subscriptions by surfacing content that a subscriber might be interested in and doesn't currently have a subscription to, thereby broadening subscription revenue over time.
Q:What are the strategies being implemented to drive growth in the subscription business?
A:Strategies include using recommendations for content that would prompt viewers to sign up for a subscription, such as featured in the content recommendations row on the home screen, and leveraging various UI locations to recommend subscription content. Additionally, there is an emphasis on improving bundling capabilities and creating bundles that include technical, product, and commercial aspects.
Q:How does the company decide whether to promote an ad-supported or subscription-supported service?
A:The company's decision is based on a complicated algorithm involving machine learning to optimize UI yield, viewer satisfaction, and revenue. It involves deciding whether showing content that is likely to convert a viewer to a paying customer or keeping the viewer engaged with free content is more beneficial in the short or long term. This is an ongoing project with a dedicated team.
Q:What is the significance of the Roku Ads Manager to the company's bottom line?
A:The Roku Ads Manager is seen as significant due to its potential to address a large and currently untapped market consisting of small and medium-sized businesses. It is a self-serve product that allows businesses to advertise on CTV with AI-generated videos. The market is large, estimated to be in the multi-skilled dollar range, and is expected to grow as more advertisers and revenue are added each month. Initial feedback is positive, and marketing efforts are set to increase.
Q:How is the integration with Amazon DSP impacting revenue and future growth?
A:The integration with Amazon Demand Side Platform (DSP) is in progress and is expected to be completed towards the end of Q3. While the exact impact is difficult to predict, the integration is anticipated to improve bid density, optimize pricing, and increase fill rates, ultimately leading to more demand. The company is focusing on being open and performant in the ecosystem, and as more partners are onboarded, it will improve demand. However, precise forecasts of the impact are challenging due to the nature of such integrations.

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