C3.ai(AI.US)2025财年第四季度业绩电话会
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C3A One's AI reports a 25% increase in total revenue for FY2025, driven by strategic partnerships with Baker Hughes, Microsoft, AWS, and others. The company highlights significant advancements in AI, particularly in generative AI and AIC AI, with over 100 solutions deployed across various sectors. Diversification into non-oil and gas sectors, along with a strong cash position and high customer satisfaction, underscore the company's rapid growth and expanding impact in healthcare, manufacturing, and government operations.
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C3 AI reports spectacular growth in its fourth quarter fiscal year 2025, marking a significant return to rapid growth with new pricing models, product mixes, and a robust partner ecosystem. The enterprise AI market is acknowledged as large and rapidly growing, with expectations of trillions in annual economic benefit. The company highlights its pioneering role in the enterprise AI market since 2014 and discusses the challenges and successes in assembling AI components to deliver value to enterprises.

C3 AI has developed a unique enterprise AI application platform after investing billions, enabling rapid design and operation of turnkey AI solutions for issues like predictive maintenance, supply chain optimization, and fraud detection. Testimonials from major clients highlight the significant economic benefits realized from using C3 AI's applications.

The company has experienced significant market growth, focusing on building an ecosystem to address the high demand for enterprise AI applications. Key strategies include forming strategic partnerships with major tech companies like Azure, AWS, and GCP, enabling these partners to effectively sell AI applications worldwide. Notably, Azure recognized the company's AI solutions as preferred choices, listing them for their sales reps and offering commissions for sales. This approach has led to successful, rapid deployments of predictive analytics applications, delivering substantial economic benefits within six months.

The partnership with Baker Hughes, initially formed in 2019, has been significantly expanded and extended until 2028, aiming to address the oil and gas market's needs. This collaboration has generated substantial revenue, notably from major industry players, and involves joint development and delivery of solutions. Additionally, efforts are focused on simplifying sales processes for partners by developing demo applications showcasing the benefits of supply chain optimization, demand forecasting, and predictive maintenance.

The focus has significantly shifted towards arming a large and powerful partner ecosystem with demonstration licenses, which constitute a substantial portion of the current quarter's revenue. These licenses are not only sold to partners but also to customers like Dow Chemical, Shell, and the United States Air Force, aiming to accelerate the adoption of technologies within their organizations and across platforms. This strategy is viewed as an investment in future growth, especially in the unique position as the only pure-play enterprise AI application in a rapidly expanding market. Collaborations with tech giants like Microsoft, AWS, and GCP further accelerate sales by leveraging existing enterprise application master agreements, positioning the company well for growth across diverse sectors including manufacturing, life sciences, and government.

C3 AI holds the patent for generative AI since December 2022, deploying over 100 solutions across various sectors, contributing to a $60 million ARR business. Significant growth is anticipated from additional applications, partner ecosystems, and federal space, particularly in defense and intelligence. The company also excels in state, local government, manufacturing, and supply chain sectors.

C3 AI experienced a 26% compound growth rate last quarter, with robust financial controls and a clear path to profitability. Despite analyst concerns about cash flow, the company maintains a consistent $750 million in cash, attributing this stability to efficient expense management. Revenue growth continues to outpace expense growth, projecting cash positivity and non-GAAP profitability by 2027. The company highlights its leadership in the enterprise AI applications sector, with no significant competitors identified. C3 AI's CTO further discussed the quarter's highlights, emphasizing the use of C3 generative AI in analyzing financial results and KPIs, showcasing the practical application of AI technology.

Total revenue for Q4 reached $108.7 million, marking a 20% increase YoY, with subscription revenue at $87.3 million. Full fiscal year 2025 revenue was $389.1 million, up 25% from the previous year, driven by subscription revenue totaling $326 million.

In fiscal 2025, C3 AI achieved significant milestones, meeting revenue guidance and expanding partnerships, notably renewing and expanding its strategic alliance with Baker Hughes. This partnership has generated over half a billion dollars in revenue from the oil and gas sector and chemical markets. Beyond oil and gas, the company saw a 48% year-over-year increase in non-oil and gas revenue, driven by growth in manufacturing, state and local government, and life sciences. Key achievements include substantial progress in state and local government services, with revenue growing over 100% and agreements closed across 24 states. Partnerships, particularly with Microsoft, have been crucial, with 73% of agreements delivered collaboratively and a notable increase in partner-supported bookings.

The company's alliances with AWS, Google Cloud, McKinsey Quantum Black, and PwC significantly enhance global delivery of advanced enterprise AI solutions. Notably, the partnership with McKinsey Quantum Black has seen successful joint agreements and training sessions. Additionally, the federal business has seen substantial growth, highlighted by a $450 million contract ceiling increase from the US Air Force for scaling sensor-based algorithms on the Panda Predictive Maintenance Platform, and the extension of the Pluto platform for real-time fuel operation visibility with the Defense Logistics Agency. New collaborations, such as with Arc Field, further expand the company's footprint in defense and intelligence communities.

In Q4 of fiscal year 2025, C3 AI experienced significant growth through new and expanded agreements with various US defense and intelligence agencies, alongside major advancements in generative and AIC AI technologies. These innovations led to notable deployments across multiple industries, including healthcare, aviation, and government sectors, demonstrating substantial efficiency gains and societal impact, as exemplified by the University of Southern California Shoah Foundation project which saved years of manual effort and significant costs through AI-driven transcription and indexing of multilingual survivor testimonies.

Ci AI is poised for growth in the burgeoning AI applications market, leveraging a robust suite of enterprise solutions, expanding partner ecosystem, and deep traction across diverse verticals. With a unique focus on delivering turnkey AI applications, the company aims to capitalize on market demand, accelerate growth through strategic alliances, penetrate new accounts, develop new applications, and expand into underserved markets, particularly in Europe. Additionally, Ci AI anticipates growth from licensing its platform to third parties for differentiated AI solutions and harnessing the potential of generative AI and AIC AI markets.

Total revenue surged to $8.7 million, with subscription revenue climbing 9% to $87.3 million. Software license sales reached $33.8 million, facilitating AI adoption. Bookings notably escalated to $135.4 million, marking a significant increase from the previous year.

The company reports significant year-over-year growth in non-baker used revenue and professional services revenue, attributing much of this success to prioritized engineering services (Pes). Plans for fiscal 2026 include expecting professional services revenue, including Pes, to maintain a certain percentage of total revenue while anticipating subscription and Pes revenue to account for 90% or more. The company is also excited about expanding its distribution network and go-to-market initiatives with partners such as Microsoft, AWS, and McKenzie. A key strategy involves activating tens of thousands of Azure sales reps to deliver C3 AI solutions, focusing on partnerships at the ground level to leverage sales force synergies.

The partnership between a technology company and an energy company has been expanded for the fifth time, solidifying their collaboration in developing solutions and serving customers worldwide.

The speaker discusses the broader revenue guidance range for the fiscal year, attributing it to acknowledged risks including geopolitical tensions, European economic instability, and potential government shutdowns, emphasizing the need to accommodate unanticipated events impacting the business environment.

The company is on track with its planned execution, growing at a steady pace, and anticipates a bright future. The management thanks the attendees for their continued support and interest, promising to keep stakeholders updated on advancements in the coming fiscal years.
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Q:What are the key highlights of C 3 AI's fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2025?
A:C 3 AI announced strong growth rates over the past three years, wrapping up the fiscal year with significant achievements, including top line growth in the fourth quarter. The company views the enterprise AI market as large, rapidly growing, and expecting to realize trillions of dollars in annual economic value. C 3 AI was acknowledged as the pioneer in this market.
Q:What is the current state of the enterprise AI market according to the call?
A:The enterprise AI market is generally acknowledged as large and rapidly growing, with an expectation to accumulate substantial economic value. The market includes companies from various segments such as silicon providers, infrastructure providers, and those offering foundation models and utilities. C 3 AI competes as a pure-play enterprise AI application company with its C 3 AI platform.
Q:How has C 3 AI differentiated itself in the market?
A:C 3 AI has differentiated itself by focusing on being an enterprise AI application pure play and investing heavily in building the C 3 AI AI platform. This platform enables rapid design, development, and delivery of turnkey AI applications that address real business problems across various industries.
Q:What are some examples of real business problems that C 3 AI addresses?
A:C 3 AI addresses real business problems such as predicted maintenance, supply chain optimization, supply network risk, demand forecasting, fraud detection, and drug discovery.
Q:What has been the focus of C 3 AI in the past few quarters?
A:In the past few quarters, C 3 AI has been focused on building an ecosystem to address the demand for enterprise AI applications and establishing an army of strategic partners to effectively communicate and sell these applications.
Q:What strategic partnerships has C 3 AI formed to enhance its enterprise AI applications?
A:C 3 AI has formed strategic partnerships with Microsoft Azure, AWS, GCP, Booz Allen in the federal space, and other agencies. These partnerships enable the effective communication and sale of C 3 AI enterprise applications and provide a path to quickly deploy production-grade AI applications.
Q:How has C 3 AI's market growth been over the years?
A:C 3 AI's market growth over the years has been substantial, going from 6% to 16% to 25%.
Q:What is the nature of the partnership between the speaker's company and Baker Hughes?
A:The partnership with Baker Hughes was formed to meet the needs of the oil and gas market, initially established in 2019 and expanded since then, including an agreement renewal and extension scheduled to expire in June 2025.
Q:What is the financial impact of the renewed and extended agreement with Baker Hughes?
A:The renewed and extended agreement with Baker Hughes is expected to contribute significantly to the company's revenue, bringing in half a billion dollars from various clients such as Shell, ExxonMobil, and others, representing a substantial tailwind to the company's financials.
Q:How is the speaker's company assisting its partners to be effective in the market?
A:The company is focusing on enabling its partners, who have large sales forces with various products to sell, to be effective by simplifying their access to the A stack, AAP, or GCP stack. This is achieved through the investment in building demo applications that showcase the economic benefits of supply chain optimization, demand forecasting, and predictive maintenance.
Q:What role do demonstration licenses play in the company's strategy?
A:Demonstration licenses are a key part of the company's strategy to arm the partner ecosystem and provide customers with successful applications. These licenses are used to accelerate change management and the adoption of technologies within their organizations. The company sold demonstration licenses to customers, such as Dow Chemical, Shell, and others, to encourage others to use these applications, signaling an investment in future growth.
Q:What is the growth potential in the enterprise AI market, and how is the speaker's company positioned within it?
A:The enterprise AI market is growing significantly, and the speaker's company is uniquely positioned as the only pure-play enterprise AI application provider. With hundreds of accounts being jointly sold with Microsoft and other major players, the company's ability to close deals rapidly and efficiently accelerates sales growth.
Q:What diversification has been achieved by the company in the last few years?
A:The company has diversified significantly across various sectors such as manufacturing, life sciences, government (state and local), and more, supported by the investments in enabling customers and partners to demonstrate their solutions.
Q:What is the company's position regarding generative AI and its intellectual property?
A:The company has a strong position in generative AI, owning the patent on generative AI technology since December 2022. This gives them rights to all the generative AI solutions being discussed, which are currently deployed across various sectors including defense, intelligence, and manufacturing.
Q:What is the projected growth from the generative AI business and what are the potential future growth areas?
A:The generative AI business currently has over 100 deployed solutions and is projected to grow to about a $60 million ARR business. Future growth areas include additional applications, expansion of the partner ecosystem, continued progress in the federal space, and moving business forward in Washington D.C.
Q:What are the growth rates of the company's core businesses?
A:The company's core businesses in manufacturing and supply chain, and demand chain have shown a 26% compound growth rate.
Q:How has the company's cash position changed over the past year?
A:The company's cash position has remained consistent over the past year, with three quarters of a billion dollars cash on the bank account as of the past and present times referenced, despite some analysts suggesting otherwise.
Q:What financial strategies contribute to the company's profitability?
A:The company's robust financial controls, very strong expense management, and the clear path to profitability have contributed to its non GAAP profitability. Revenue growth continues to exceed expense growth rate, which leads to profitability.
Q:What are the highlights of the company's AI achievements according to the CEO?
A:The CEO highlights the company's remarkable progress in AI, strong financial results, deepened strategic alliances, solidified leadership in enterprise AI, consistent execution, accelerating growth, innovation, and a focus on delivering value to customers and shareholders.
Q:What were the financial results for the fourth quarter and full fiscal year mentioned?
A:The financial results mentioned include total revenue of $108.7 million for the quarter, subscription revenue of $87.3 million, combined subscription and prioritized engineering services revenue of $104.4 million, non GAAP gross profit of $75.2 million, a non GAAP operating loss of $31.2 million, non GAAP net loss per share of 16 cents, and free cash flow of $10.3 million in the quarter. For the full fiscal year, total revenue was $389.1 million, an increase of 25% from the prior year.
Q:What was the impact of the partnership with Baker Hughes on the company's revenue?
A:The strategic partnership with Baker Hughes has been a cornerstone of the company's success, generating over half a billion dollars in revenue from the oil and gas sector and the chemical markets.
Q:How did the company's growth extend beyond the oil and gas sector?
A:The company's growth beyond the oil and gas sector gained significant momentum, with non-oil and gas revenue increasing by 48% year over year and successful expansion into 19 different industries.
Q:What is the company's success in the manufacturing, state and local government, and life sciences sectors?
A:In manufacturing, the company has established a strong track record through predictive maintenance, energy efficiency, quality optimization, and supply chain visibility, with key customers expanding their engagements. The state and local government sector experienced over 100% revenue growth with 71 agreements closed across 24 states, demonstrating the trust in the company's solutions. In the life sciences and healthcare sector, the company is leveraging medical and research data to optimize clinical workflows and is gaining relevance in the space, as evidenced by customer traction with companies like GSK, Quest Diagnostics, Sanofi, Boston Scientific, and Bristol Myers Squib.
Q:Which partnership is driving force in expanding the company's market reach and what are the notable achievements in collaboration with Microsoft?
A:The partnership with Microsoft is a driving force in expanding the company's market reach. Notable achievements include closing 75 agreements with a particular focus on manufacturing and chemicals, and Microsoft's executive team participating in over 100 customer meetings and taking an active role in joint marketing initiatives.
Q:How has the strategic alliance with PwC positioned the company to accelerate AI-driven transformation for enterprises?
A:The strategic alliance with PwC targets key industries such as financial services, manufacturing, and utilities, combining their agentic AI capabilities with PwC's advisory expertise to position the company well for accelerating AI-driven transformation for enterprises in these sectors.
Q:What was the recent increase in the contract ceiling awarded by the US Air Force Rapid Sustainment Office for the deployment of sensor-based algorithms?
A:The US Air Force Rapid Sustainment Office awarded a contract ceiling of $450 million to scale the deployment of sensor-based algorithms on the Panda Predictive Maintenance Platform. This was an increase from the initial $100 million ceiling.
Q:How has the company extended its relationship with the Defense Logistics Agency for Energy and what does the new agreement with Arc Field accomplish?
A:The company extended its relationship with the Defense Logistics Agency for Energy by significantly enhancing the Pluto platform in the first quarter of fiscal 2023. The new agreement with Arc Field integrates the C 3 agentic AI platform and C 3 generative AI into Arc Field's offerings, enhancing capabilities in supply chain optimization, predictive maintenance, and mission assurance.
Q:What is the company's position in the generative AI and AI space and what is its differentiation?
A:The company is positioned at the forefront of generative AI, with a patent for advanced AI agents and a significant revenue growth from C 3 generative AI in fiscal 2023. The company is unique in offering production-ready solutions and has delivered over 130 applications to date. Its differentiation lies in its highly specialized AI solutions that address large, underserved market opportunities.
Q:What is the growth potential indicated by the AI agents market projection according to Gartner?
A:The AI agents market is projected to grow from $5.1 billion in 2024 to $47.1 billion by 2030, according to Gartner, and the company is well positioned to capitalize on this trend through its production-ready solutions.
Q:What are the key drivers of the company's growth and how does it plan to capitalize on the vast and growing market for AI applications?
A:The key drivers of the company's growth include a robust suite of enterprise AI applications, a rapidly expanding partner ecosystem, and deepening traction across diverse verticals. The company plans to capitalize on the market's growth by delivering secure, scalable, and production-grade AI solutions that address real-world business challenges.
Q:What are the major market initiatives for the upcoming fiscal year?
A:Major market initiatives for the upcoming fiscal year include further penetration into new accounts, development of new applications to expand into new verticals, and the full realization of strategic alliances with partners like Microsoft, AWS, Google Cloud, McKinsey, and Quantum Black. The company is targeting over 1000 joint accounts with Microsoft alone and expects increased traction in Europe. It also plans to develop an OEM business, licensing the C 3 Agentic AI platform to third parties to create derivative AI applications.
Q:How much did subscription revenue increase year over year?
A:Subscription revenue increased 9% year over year to $87.3 million.
Q:What is the role of professional services revenue in the company's total revenue?
A:Professional services revenue, which includes prioritized engineering services, was 21.4 million during the quarter, representing 22% of total revenue.
Q:How is professional services revenue expected to contribute to the company's total revenue in fiscal 2026?
A:The company expects professional services revenue, including prioritized engineering services, to generally stay within 10 to 15% of total revenue for fiscal 2026.
Q:What was the non GAAP gross profit for the quarter?
A:The non GAAP gross profit for the quarter was $70.200 million.
Q:What is the expected range for non GAAP loss from operations for the first quarter and non GAAP loss from operations for the year?
A:The expected range for non GAAP loss from operations for the first quarter is $23.5 million to $33.5 million, and for the year, the guidance is $65 million to $100 million.
Q:What is the company's strategy for growth and profitability as it approaches fiscal 2023?
A:The company expects the revenue growth rate to continue to exceed expense growth rate, leading to profitability as a matter of scale. They anticipate crossing into non GAAP profitability during the second half of fiscal 2023 and being free cash flow positive in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023 and in successive years thereafter.
Q:How does the company plan to leverage its partnership with Microsoft for C 3 AI?
A:The company plans to leverage the partnership with Microsoft by having a team of 100 sales people form partnerships with Azure salespeople to focus on specific accounts. They aim to expand their presence through these partnerships, with the goal of having over 600 joint accounts with Microsoft by May 2025. The focus is on engaging with the 'feet on the street' to provide tools to Azure sales reps for demonstrations and to help them retire their quota while making their customers successful.
Q:What health setback did Tom encounter and how did it affect his work?
A:Tom suffered a health setback that limited his ability to travel and required him to work from home for a period to recover.
Q:What are the details of Tom's upcoming travel plans?
A:Tom is catching a red eye to Washington DC tonight and will be there for three days to attend a wedding in Cabo.
Q:What can be said about the expanded relationship with Baker Hughes?
A:The relationship with Baker Hughes has expanded significantly and the details are covered under an NDA. The partnership is continuing to provide solutions, enable the development of derivative works, and serve customers worldwide.
Q:What does the speaker say about the relationship between C3 AI and Baker Hughes?
A:The relationship between C3 AI and Baker Hughes is strong, not rocky as speculated, and the partnership will continue regardless of location.
Q:What is the reasoning behind the wider revenue guidance band for this quarter?
A:The wider revenue guidance band is due to the acknowledgment of real risks such as kinetic, geopolitical, and budget risks, including the possibility of government shutdowns, which could affect all companies globally.
Q:How does the company plan to deal with potential risks?
A:The company plans to deal with potential risks by acknowledging their reality and thereby preparing a broader range than usual to accommodate the unanticipated impacts.

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